Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually...........
    there was a very young near death experiencer who was shown something pretty much along that line...........

    ... so maybe the guy playing the role of Satan in the Anna Roundtree films / books.... might be an A. I???????

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/children.html#a03

     
  2. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    If you are god, what is the need to test anyone. You already know their response.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No..... Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan proved for all time that
    even high level Covering Cherubs could not be predicted??????

    https://www.near-death.com/science/articles/richard-eby-and-secomd-coming-of-christ.html#a03

    Now the case with Azazel Baalzebub Abner Paul Satan is quite different!
     
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    Magic.
     
  5. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Huh ?
    Calling contrived writings proof of anything is delusional.
    The, ‘It must be true because someone said( wrote it) it three times, “ is proof of nothing.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly what any discussion of religion has to start with; “ imagine please for a moment.”
    When you get people to imagine anything, you open the door to pretending anything can exist. It’s the wrong rabbit hole.
     
  7. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you seriously think that evolution can be limited to less than four billion years....... earth time?

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

    There are some quotations on String Theory in this blog that you might want to give some thought to...... but basically........ String Theory implies the existence of energy that would exist long before the Big Bang..........
    and that energy would be moving.... .and working along the lines of the Law of Complexity Consciousness.......

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
  8. dagosa

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    Yawn. Lots of conspiracy theory. Not much fact. Just a lot of “he said, she said.” You need to come up with something more factual to be taken seriously.
     
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    Do you know what woo woo is ? Look it up. We don’t use scientific jargon we know little about just to fool people into believing faith based ideas. String theory has little to do with any “God.”
     
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    Do you seriously think you know more about evolution then the collective consensus of science. Can you say, “ fossil ? “
     
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    You're combining one unprovable idea of several and stirring in the addled dreams of a tiny number of dying brains that you select!!!

    That's not a technique that could possibly be expected to result in ideas that are worth spending time on.
     
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    Exactly. It’s called woo woo. Just because statement A is correct, unrelated statement B must be correct.
     
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    Have to admit this has proven to be a great thread for everything but getting answers from neoatheists about anything beyond what they 'lack', which is clearly more than just belief.
     
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    You already have several threads dedicated to sophistry/semantics regarding "neoatheists" and attempts to replace debate and discussion with quips like this one. No need to bring it to other people's threads.
     
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    Hardcore atheism is stale and obsolete because of its focus on objective physical reality. Relying entirely on that level of knowledge, the senses, and the intellect is not enough for adequately addressing the God issue.

    Because of quantum physics, the shortcomings of confinement to a material reality mindset have become evident. The nonlocality interaction of entanglement at faster-than-light-speed discredits the presumed absolutism of space-time reality.

    Our physical reality is a construct, a deceptive illusion that looks and feels real but isn’t, other than superficially. At the level of subatomic components, solid matter does not exist. The location and momentum (vector) of an electron cannot be accurately determined simultaneously. A limited percentage of quarks are popping in and out of existence.

    Our reality is a simulation, a virtual reality re-established from one microsecond to the next as influenced by probabilities. The process most often adheres closely to logic and consistency. The exceptions include paranormal phenomena.

    Matter is composed of (1) a relatively vast amount of empty space, (2) consciousness, and (3) energy that has vibratory effects or in-transit characteristics of a wave or particle. Double slit experiments repeated since the 1920s have confirmed the harboring of a conditional subjective factor (the presence or absence of applied conscious awareness) in the behavior of wave/particle duality of light.

    The subjectivity factor could also be covertly functional in some similar manner in all other materializations. However, there is no prevailing explanation of the possible involvement of consciousness in the decoherence that precipitates the natural landscape at large.

    One explanation describes the potential for the outgoing focus and consensus on intention by mass consciousness to be reflected back effecting selection of the preferred probability. Routine background reality would be sustained unconsciously by the consensual universal mind (alternatively, the mind of God).

    The here and now contains numerous explicates. Precursor implicates are suggestive of a designing agent, however remote.

    Manageability of our virtual reality implies the existence of an interactive program that is somewhere beyond our perceptibility (the programmer and the instructions are invisible to the program participants).

    Secular reductionism is contentious of forward-thinking notions despite inability to offer a root cause (a system cannot contain the cause of itself).

    A list derived from Proof of God (copyright 2017) by Ptolemy Tompkins and Bernard Haisch includes:

    1. The big bang.
    2. The universe is rife with places favorable for life.
    3. Extraordinary fine-tuning.
    a. Expansion speed of the universe. Deviation would exclude formation of ordinary matter, dark matter, dark energy, regular energy, galaxies, and livable planets.
    b. Early stars would not form without the right kind of dust and gas.
    c. Generous distribution of H, O, and C conducive to formation of water & organic compounds.
    d. Experts cannot fathom the necessary exactitude of universal laws/constants e.g. the strength of gravity, the force of electricity, the size of the electric charge, mass ratios of the proton & electron, etc.).​
    4. The simulation (virtual reality) previously cited. It is a product of consciousness and numbers (math). Via the mind of God, thought can create anything and everything.
    5. For those who can handle voluminous complexities of abstract propositions and logical proofs, there’s Godel’s theorem, which has been challenged by some critics.

    Arthur Stanley Eddington: “The substratum of everything is of mental character.”

    James Jeans: “The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.”

    Stephen Hawking and Steve Weinberg were awed by the magnificence and extraordinary intricacies of the universe, but they stubbornly avoided recognition of the philosophical implications and meanings obvious to less brilliant minds.
     
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    And to think Deepak Chopra would be proud of the woo woo used in this post. Quantum physics proves nothing about God, no more then Newtonian physics did when it hit everyone’s top 100 list.
     
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    Anyone seeing this reality as "stale" has gotten seriously lost.

    And, your version of physics has serious problems, too.
     
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    The immense puddle of woo woo used in that posts has a close resemblance to wee wee and poo poo that has been flushed away in numerous prior posts.
     
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    Dont tell me another einee weenie worshipper, apparently our last [meta]physics go round wasnt evident enough

    yes Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist. has been flushed several times

    You ask: Why Did The Toilet Flush Twice?

    With a simple adjustment of your flapper, this is quickly resolved.

    https://redcapplumbing.com/help-guides/troubleshooting/why-does-my-toilet-flush-twice

    :bounce: :applause: :cheerleader: :winner:
     
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    Oh, hearsay and conspiracy theory is not evidence no matter how many science related words you try to disguise it in.
     
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    ah yes the good ole standby, when the neoatheist cesspool is empty, accuse your opponent of conspiracy theory, dont forget to include hitler and the holocaust in your next post!
    :nerd:
    :deadhorse:
     
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    Huh ?
     
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    Disjointed ramblings seem to be the common practice for those who have no facts to back their delusions.
     
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    Guilty as charged. Physical reality vs wishful thinking seems to be the difference. .
    Tell us, do you think atheists are “ stale and absolute” because they don’t believe in your god, or any god. Which is it. I can’t seem to get a answer from a true believer.
     
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    Ironic that atheists who embrace scientific knowledge that is growing on a daily basis is "stale and obsolete" whereas theist SUPERSTITIONS that are 2000+ years OLD are not?
     
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