Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...I unfortunately ignored my spidey sense (ignore list) and answered its stupidity when requested.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Yes. It seems reasonable to me, that an agnostic is more spiritual then a devout Christian. While a Christian will deny every “ god” other then his own, (19 of 20 major religions) an agnostic just needs proof and everything (all 20) are on the table. Is an atheist much different ?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have found most Atheists to be Agnostic. I myself am both in that I do not believe in any of the human gods but know I do not Know if anything else is out there.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Its tougher being agnostic. I find that vacillating between meeting all our deceased loved ones after death, and the 72 virgin thing conflict. Seriously, being a devout Christian or any other, is much easier.
    Not much thinking. I have a golf buddy who is an ex priest cause found he liked women, but is still a firm believer. All I have to ask him is, “does your god really care about your golf game?” . His game folds like a cheap suit.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    I know for a fact, something else is out there. ;)
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Yep theres the neoatheist premise, a total fallacy!
    COMPLETE FAILURE to address questions and counterclaims
    COMPLETE FAILURE to address questions and counterclaims
    COMPLETE FAILURE to address questions and counterclaims, and then run for cover by using the ignore button is the neoatheist response to address their failure, Clearly you have no answers what so ever to the questions posited.


    Ok here I will give you all a break.
    Here is a really tough question that I am sure everyone here can answer.

    "do you 'lack' belief" 8):lol:
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Atheist and agnostic are 100% exclusive.
    Sorry, but the claim of agno-atheist is an equivocation fallacy, typically this sort of thing is the result grammar issues or worse intellectual dishonesty.
     
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  8. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Playing your "Lacker" game is nothing but troll feeding and your very presence is irritating and clearly meant to do so. Just typing FAILURE! and spewing senseless, angry diatribe is an extremely poor and rather childish means of doing your little troll dance and makes you seem very bad at even trolling.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Please get serious, 'lack' is the neoatheist mantra, yes its a game, not one I play, but its a neoatheist favorite.

    There is no angry diatribe, my posts exhibit FACTS, facts neoatheists do not address, your posts exhibit anger not mine, the neoatheists FAILED to answer the questions put to them/you, and you are the one who is now doing everything in your power to discredit me to distract everyone from the FACT THAT NEOATHEISTS FAILED TO ANSWER (or for that matter even respond) to THE QUESTIONS/COUNTERARGUMENTS proposed!

    "Very simple, elementary, atheists believe/claim no G/god(s) exist, it is completely illogical to disbelieve something that you might find under the next stone you turn over with no facts to support your disbelief."

    "Neoatheists have no facts, no evidence, and a monumental failure in investigation."

    Feel free to address the questions and counter arguments any time, and please spare us the massive indignation and agony of defeat. No? Then respond to the questions and counterarguments instead of attacking me.
     
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    Everything you’ve posted has been refuted. There is no such thing as a neoatheist. Atheism by definition is not a religion. Atheism means the lack of belief in a god or gods.
     
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    Answer this one question. Are you distraught because atheist/ agnostics don’t believe in any God, or don’t believe in your God ? Which is it ?
     
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    Well, imo, smart ( intelligent ) people know what they don’t know. So, if your wife doesn’t grasp astrophysics and you don’t get medicine, and you both understand that, it makes you both pretty smart ( intelligent).
    Those here who run around knowing they aren’t scientists but know something special more then a scientist in a particular field, they are the ones who are suspect.

    They start sentences with, “I’m not a climate scientist, but I know climate change isn’t real.” Well, no they don’t.
     
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    yes and you did a smashing good job at it too!
    who could possibly argue with a magnificent refutation like that! :icon_shithappens:
    Thats not one question. and its loaded, a false premise fallacy.
    Yep
    and their keyboards write checks like "Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist." that their asses cant cash. To be perfectly blunt.
     
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    Nothing in your post is correct.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    So, are you upset at atheist / agnostics for not believing your God or any God.
     
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    Nonsense.

    Agnosticism is the belief that matters concerning gods are unknowable.

    Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

    Obviously, those are two separate categories. One can be an agnostic atheist, agnostic theist, gnostic atheist or gnostic theist.

    Your claims? Flagrantly dishonest word games, and everyone laughs hard at them. If you have to redefine common English into your own speshul PC vocabulary to make your argument, as you do, then you've admitted defeat right at the start.

    Better luck next time. At this stage, you're just an interesting case study of aberrant psychology. Please keep talking, so we can better classify your personality disorders.
     
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    Simple question. Are you upset with atheist because they don’t beleive in your God or any God. Where is the false premise ?
     
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    Hey some people are athe-agno-theist, what the hell if 2 is good 3 is better right? So why not be all 3!!!!! :icon_shithappens:
    According to Huxley, (you know the guy who created the word, but then wtf does he know), [T]he word [Agnostic] was designed as antithetic to the ‘Gnostic’ of early church history, and was intended to be opposed not simply to theism and Christianity, but also to atheism and pantheism.
    Yes thank you for posting yet another demonstration of the academically superior neoatheist bulwark of logic, reason and blue ribbon FAIL
     
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    Thank you for failing to answer a simple question. It reaffirms the “fragility” of religion. It has to be propped up on a pedestal of falsehoods, only to exist in a limited range of discussion. Anytime time some one asks anything about specifics, the believers fold up like a cheap suit.
    Simple question. What do you find the most offensive about agnostics/atheists, that they don’t believe in any god , or your god in particular ?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If only someone could produce these facts so everyone else could be enlightened...this world would be forever changed for the better. Alas, that has never happened thus far.
     
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    All the ingredients for life, are out there. So I feel very comfortable with that.
    The earth is about 4.5 billion years old and 2 billion had some life forms, that’s pretty amazing imo. The universe is 13 plus billion years. That leaves a lot of opportunity for life to evolve somewhere. IMO, it’s not much of a stretch at all to conclude “ something” is out there. I’d say it’s likely.
     
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    Imagine please for a moment that you are G-d and you look down on
    at a minimum of eleven different dimensions of space - time that function at lower and lower and lower
    levels of energy down to four dimensional space time where the people and sentient beings there are the dumbest
    and least well informed anywhere in the universe - multiverse?

    If one of your major goals is to test people for sincerity.......
    and a love of truth.....
    do you clearly reveal yourself to everybody.... or do you allow deception and lying and
    stealing to continue...... in order to find a few who you can trust with off the scale astonishing
    higher dimensional energy/ power / and RESPONSIBILITY..... for eternity in the FUTURE?????

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/george-ritchie.html#a05e
    Would you.... as G-d / YHWH be at least tempted to allow this experiment to continue for some time??????

    But..... I admit... you do have plans to improve matters later on but.... you use human freedom of choice as a big part of that utopian shift.


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04
     
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    Okay...I am God and dealing with you scenario. Being omnipotent I just erased everything and started over because I made a mess.
     
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    LOL!!!!

    Then again.... .my diabolical, dastardly and despicable plan to get you and the Devil back together...........
    might just make me a useful idiot that you keep around........................ partly for laughs..... partly for
    a plan C, D or E sort of event?????!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...start-an-online-outreach-to-satanists.517921/
     
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    Did I not mention that I also erased the Devil? I assume you are just guessing about plan B as I would then need to erase you as well...laughs or not.
     
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