I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....

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Can demons be given hope?

  1. No... the demons have zero hope!

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  2. Yes..... Elijah must "restore all things"

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  3. I am not sure but I will research this further.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    About fourteen years ago I was on a political discussion forum and somebody who claimed to be the world's most famous Satanist began to reply into my discussions.

    In his signature, he gave a link to a Satanist forum, I joined........ and I noticed that the level of anger and bitterness there began to rapidly decrease.

    A few months later the guy who I met first acted rather strangely and cursed me upside down on the forum...... so I knew that that was kind of serious... i knew that my family was in real danger...... .so i withdrew from the forum...... . but I knew that the time would come when I would begin again.

    I don't debate simply to win debates.... .i try to take discussion to higher and faster and then higher and faster levels.......

    which is different from the typical win vs lose method that most Christian apologists use.

    I know that I know that I know that I know.... that nobody in their right mind begins a ministry to Satanists.... without asking for assistance from prayer warriors. I will also be anointing my house, basement, door posts and window sills with olive oil that I pray for..... to turn our home into a spiritual fortress.

    Thank you all in advance........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/darth-vader-azazel-zeus.516000/

    Darth Vader = Azazel = Zeus???
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My question in the poll is based on a statement from a Pastor Rick Joyner from a visionary dream he had been given back in 1995.

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

    (Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest):
     
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    I don't think outreach is ever a bad idea unless there is some sort of material danger. At worse, even if you don't convince anyone, you'll still be sharpening your thoughts in order to address their questions and arguments. And if you have already seen a decrease in bitterness from your presence (I don't doubt it, you seem to have the same effect here), then I'd think you are having some sort of positive impact no matter what.
     
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    You don't know what you are getting into.

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Much appreciated......
    that is actually one of my major goals for this forum.

    I am rabidly Universalist..... and I think that near death experiencer Guy VanHorn McLain gave a message that within five centuries may be up there with the Jewish and Christian scriptures.


    Guy VanHorn-McLain:
     
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    But they do...........
    and they will know if this is merely a delusion of grandeur on my part or not?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-4

    http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

    Chapter 69
     
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    The most important point that I wish to attempt to get across is eventual universal salvation.

    Christian Andreason, Chapter 3:
    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html
     
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    Why search for darkness when it’s already here? You can open your door and evil in the world. Find a better path.
     
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    Many people are possessed. Be careful as you will get violent reactions.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.... I have seen some of the manifestations in the past.......
    I just watched an interesting interview about a woman who was once a
    High Priestess but she completely turned her life around.



    For years now I have wondered if we are close to the time when the kingdom of darkness will be divided.....
    and rapidly fall?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-and-divide-the-kingdom-of-satan-and.369227/


    "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10 RSV)

    In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

    I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!

    "And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
    (Matthew 12)
     
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    They are smarter than we are, so that is why we were given a shepherd, by the name of Jesus.

     
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    Yes..... the fallen angels are brilliant intellectually and in many other ways........
    but I am convinced that the Ancient of Days the Father, who Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stated
    clearly was greater than Him... and was actually doing the miracles through Him.......
    WANTS the fallen angels back...........
    desperately...... but the Jewish High Holy Days indicate a delay between when
    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus could play out the role of Messiah the Passover Lamb.....
    (for all descendants of Abraham, literally and metaphorically).....
    with a later time of two metaphorical goats.

    Are the two goats the two witnesses of the Book of Revelation?

    I don't know for sure......
    but I believe that the feelings of King David toward his fallen son King Absolom is the way that the Ancient of Days the Father views his fallen children, the fallen Watchers and the fallen angels.

    Acts 13:22

    "And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will."

    2Samuel 18:33

    "And the king was much moved, and went up to the chamber over the gate, and wept: and as he went, thus he said, O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!"

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tc-en.html
    Pastor Rick Joyner, The Call, near the bottom of the page:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...onal-being-in-the-universe-multiverse.368603/

    Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?
     
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    I am at the 30 minute mark in the video already......
    this is extremely well done. Thank you immensely for this warning.

    On that note..... I have a strange offer for His Holiness Pope Francis.
    IF.... Pope Francis and his team will generally support the moving of the
    remains of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov from the Ukraine to somewhere in Israel.......
    I do believe that a series of events will be set in motion that will speed the division and the fall of
    the kingdom of Satan.

    I could be incorrect.....
    but I really do think that Rabbi Nachman of Breslov was a fulfillment of this verse in the Christian scriptures:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...taken-to-israel.405032/page-2#post-1068222855

    Would you like to see the remains of Rabbi Nachman taken to Israel?

     
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    Satan and Jesus/God are very clearly human made constructs with absolutely no ability or relevance to the physical reality we call life. Any and All discussion of theses things should occur with this very basic fact in mind.

    Now...have at it.
     
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    Satan..... is a word / name that is subject to definition......
    as was explained to an eleven year old near death experiencer but I am convinced that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was a real
    historical personage who sure seems to have gotten to the place where he could accomplish feats similar to that of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov, who claims to be able to rescue many of his followers from very low and terrifying levels of The Void / Purgatory / Sheol / Gehinnom.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/children.html#a03
     
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    "Satan and Jesus/God are very clearly human made constructs with absolutely no ability or relevance to the physical reality we call life. Any and All discussion of theses things should occur with this very basic fact in mind.

    Now...have at it."

    ~OR~

    You can just continue to write your fantasy novel.
     
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    I remember in the 80's when these kids started saying that they were being molested by a Satanic cult in their daycare. Satanic cults were all the rage among Christians back then and they saw them everywhere from rock bands, to D&D, to shampoo companies. Of course, it turns out that some overzealous counselors had actually accidentally implanted false memories these kids plus the kids were just telling the adults what they thought the adults wanted to hear. The teachers in the daycare that were accused, had their lives ruined over this and it started to bleed over into other daycares before more logical heads prevailed.

    If you look at history of the church, Satanism was used as an excuse to destroy the indigenous pagan religions of Europe and to keep women in their place.
     
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    So....... the near death experience of little Colton Burpo.......
    was that merely a fantasy novel?

    It sure sounds like II Corinthians 12:2-4 to my thinking.

    It also reminds me of the ability of the Prophet Elisha to:

    2Kings 6:12
    "And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber."


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...aven-is-for-real-and-ask-you-about-it.518250/

    Friends of yours watch Heaven Is For Real and ask you about it?
     
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    Humans unfortunately are very prone to active imaginations becoming confused with reality. This is the Reason religions became popular and Satan is somehow considered a reality. Those who manage to grasp the realities of our lives and world generally scoff at the idea of these things and feel a sense of pity for those that believe.
     
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