Atheists soon a majority?

I'm not even slightly paranoid of my atheism.

The thing is, I see people attacking religion and attacking atheism. I WILL defend atheism against unreasonable attack.

I also defend religion in that people have a right to their religion and attacking such beliefs is counter productive.

Obviously, we need "values and ethics" in our public policy decision making. Atheism contributes to that as does religion.

Also, we need public policy decision making to be informed by science. I definitely work to promote that.

 

Obama is NOT an excuse for what is happening today. If you believe in something better, then start working toward that.

If you want a better union, then form a better union.

Eliminating unions is not a solution for promoting better conditions and improved compensation for workers.

 

Unfortunately Christians in particular call defending Atheism an attack and are offended, as they are if impossible biblical stories are called what they are. Everyone has a right to believe as they wish...EVERYONE. But everyone does not have a right to get pissed when called out on an internet forum...especially one designed to promote such.

 

I am not concerned with what you assert. Your intellectual dishonesty continues, Mamasaid.

 

You guys don't listen.

I said I believe, and whether atheists like that or not is immaterial.

I also have said atheists have neither language, nor logic, nor symbols to disprove the existence of deity.

So . . . step off, atheists.

 

Atheists should defend how they believe if they so wish, but to suggest that somehow that is a burden on theists is intellectual dishonesty.

 

I will ask again, expecting no actual answer but we shall see:

Which deity do you believe in that you want me to disprove?
I will use logic, language and even symbols if required to do so. I am stepping UP so don't back down.

 

Immaterial because I don't care if you try to disprove, tecoyah.

And, secondly, I know you can't, but go for it if you believe you must.

Mamasaid long ago admitted defeat on this issue.

 

Most atheists just look the other way, not caring what God you believe in.

However if you are going to try to present one, be prepared to prove it.

 

Okay...and I hope you return the favor.

I do not accept any of the man made deities for several reasons.
Firstly I have never seen or heard compelling data or evidence to support said belief
Secondly, I have seen and read as well as experienced compelling information and documentation debunking the possibility they do exists.
Third, attempting personal interaction or even indications of tangible contact has been completely ineffective.
Fourth, attempts at gaining this from "professionals" in the field have also produced nothing tangible.
Fifth, inconsistencies found in the many versions of this "Entity" make confirmation of any one of them counter to every other
Further...documented and clearly verified data indicates the literature that forms the basis of the concept and thus reality were clearly written by humans yet claimed to be written by the entities in question or dictated by it rendering all edits and revisions null and void.

 

So you're OK if that employer forced YOU to donate to someone you don't like? Making someone join a union to hold a job is like making someone be a particular religion or political party to work.

 

Personally, I can't 'prove' God any more than you can prove He doesn't exist, I do think the chances of His existence are more likely true than not. Ours is a reasonable faith.

 

Interesting you think making union membership voluntary = eliminating them.

 

Why are they 'impossible'? Because you've never seen a similar event?

 

And you are entitled to believe whatever you want, as long as it does not affect the lives of others.
If your belief's attempt to dictate to others, then be prepared for a confrontation.

 

I agree. However, saying "I believe" does not mean I have to prove it to you.

 

Thank you.

 

You don't have to prove a thing to me, until you insist that "I believe:>

 

yatoosureok has made a tremendous point: that religious values and secular ethics will clash at times in policy making. That is why we have the Constitution as a guide and a rule book.

 

Interesting that you would think that making membership optional is the only assault on unions, let alone on wage earners.

 

I'm not so sure there is a "clash" like that - there certainly doesn't need to be.

Maybe you could propose an example of a conflict in public policy that looks like that to you.

 

Your god is the one true god, no doubt about that. Of all the gods that have ever been worshipped, yours is the true one. That's what everyone has always believed. God is on everyone's side, no matter what that side is.

Are they getting any more civilised though? We have less burning at the stake and human sacrifice, but more suicide bombing and limb amputations.

The sooner people understand that religion is a scam and there is no god, the sooner we can become civilised.

 

Well....as the Earth lacks the water for the flood and living tissue cannot be re animated let alone an entire creature I go with impossibility.

 

Get active in your union if you think they should do something differently.

The thing is, any group such as workers in some job category is not going to agree on everything.

 

Of course you are, as your incessant whining is predicated on an assertion you falsely attribute to me.

 

People have often believed in a multiplicity of Gods of varying purposes and powers, and they have elected to serve one or several or all.

The Native Americans of present-day Mexico believed in several gods while accept the Christian religion. Why? The gods (Father, Son, Holy Ghost) were more powerful than their gods.