Attorney General William Barr Defends Handling Of Mueller Report

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  1. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    You guys say "fake news" over and over again, but you can't back it up. I have repeatedly asked people to provide links to stories that they say were "fake", and identify what they say was wrong.

    You are infected with confirmation bias. You read a story that appears to you to be critical of Trump and you believe that it is making assertions against him that just don't exist in the story.

    The biggest "fake news" of the last few years is Trump's assertion that the MSM is peddling fake news. That is a complete lie from Trump, but it fits with your prejudices so you believe it without questioning it.
     
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    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    So, has the President 'colluded' with the Russians ;) ? What happens if Trump's taxes are ordinary? Seriously, all of this has been nothing but fake news. In fact, it's disingenous to call it news. It's a rumor mill, we're living our HS days out in the mass media.
     
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    Mueller says not (apparently - according to Barr. I want to see the full report, only with appropriate redactions).
    But - can you cite any NYT or WaPo article that asserted that he DID collude with Russians? Because I don't remember any story making that accusation. I remember stories reporting the fact that there was investigation, but not accusing him.

    I'm still waiting for it - link to an article and identify what in that article is wrong. It should be easy since you seem to be saying it is all fake news.

    But it isn't. They report the facts accurately. Prove otherwise. Or accept that your cry of "fake news" against the MSM is the real fakery.
     
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    If you haven't noticed that the entire mainstream media has touted 'proof' that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians to fix the 2016 election for the past two years and the Mueller report has been summarized that zero such proof exists then you live in a liberal fantasy land that Alice in Wonderland couldn't begin to imagine.
     
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    Proving my point. The MSM has NOT touted "proof" that Trump colluded with Russians. They have reported on stories that are factually true.

    For example, the Trump Tower meeting. That happened. True.

    Then the press release that the WH issued. The press reported that the press release was misleading. Which it was. True.

    Then they reported that Trump was the one who drafted the misleading press release. Again, true.

    I keeping asking for actual links showing "fake news", but no-one provides them. You have been told by your hero so often that MSM is fake news that you just accept it without questioning. But when you are asked to drill down and actually prove it, you can't.

    One story. Just one story about collusion or obstruction that you say is "fake news". Just one. Over to you.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, the fake news.

     
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    Hilarious. A series of single quotes or short phrases. Some people making predictions. For most of them, you can't even tell what the context is.

    Not a single thing that was reported as fact, that turned out to be false. Not one.

    Try again.
     
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    Where do you think Mueller is being held captive?
     
  9. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    What crimes? The AG during Whitewater had nothing to do with it. Starr was the one that referred crimes, and was an independent prosecutor not a special prosecutor acting under a different law that is no longer the law
     
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    struth Well-Known Member

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    That’s not correct
     
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    All the articles claiming conspiracy, collusion or obstruction
     
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    Link? No-one has taken me up on my challenge before. Go for it. A MSM news article that alleges that Trump engaged in one of those things.
     
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    Those are opinion pieces. Not news stories. I specifically said news stories. And anyway, is there any allegation of FACT (not opinion) in either of those stories that is untrue?

    But hey, I guess if that is your standard, then anyone saying that Hillary committed a crime with her server is peddling fake news. Because - just like Trump and obstruction - she hasn't been charged or convicted.
     
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    No need to write a book yet, but many will be written once the criminal referrals begin. https://saraacarter.com/nunes-globa...il&utm_term=0_5f3d745e4f-a8b8d72cd7-283281805

    Hannity, btw, is one of the very few people who had it right from beginning. The clueless Rachel Maddow/CNN viewers remain that way.
     
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    Umm that's what everyone wants. Of course there are
    No more charges from the Mueller team. Keep the flame burning. Keep the hope alive.
     
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    Yes...that's sort of the problem...these leftist propaganda machines tried to pass opinion as fact, and the leftist sheep ate it up. They still do.

    What Clinton did with her server was illegal. The IG said so in his report. That's fact. She certainly hasn't been convicted of any crime, but the IG said her server was illegal.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-broke-federal-rules-email-server-audit-finds-n580131
     
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    No ... Strzok & Page are no longer carrying their FBI ID "cards". Mueller the "shot caller" axed the pair of them from his team, and that raised the red flags that resulted in their "cards" being revoked. McCabe & Comey's "cards" were revoked too, but not by "shot caller" Bob Mueller ... and revoked for leaking BTW.
     
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    Sorry, but you are peddling fake news. The IG report did NOT say her server was illegal. It might have broken some procedural rules, but not any laws.
     
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    If you break the rules, you commit an illegal act. The server was illegal. Read the report. There is no if, ands or buts about it.

    "“Because she did not do so, she did not comply with the [State] Department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."

    She violated the Federal Records Act...she broke the law. What is worse is those in the Obama Admin conspired with her...

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...government-rules-watchdog-finds-idUSKCN0YG21Z


    "The report concluded that Clinton would not have been allowed to use the server in her home had she asked the department officials in charge of information security. The report said that staff who later raised concerns were told to keep quiet. Several suspected hacking attempts in 2011 were never reported to department information security officials, in breach of department rules, it said."

    THe Obama Admin was a national security threat.
     
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    If it is just 1 story that the MSM got wrong that's one to many. So here's a link with links to back it up, so go ahead and move the goal post or just say OK someone backed it up. Libs can't admit they're wrong they just keep smearing.

    https://sharylattkisson.com/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/
     
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    I am glad the AG is setting the record straight against the fake news leftist who are spinning and lying.
     
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    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, he's the AG for god's sake. The left are out of control. They say wait for Mueller he's gonna lock Trump up and now we've waited and got an answer it's buh buh buh no no no, totally triggered again. Election night 2016 all over again, so funny.
     
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    Misleading in which way? Only in the sense that the Russians specifically focused on the Mitinsky act(spelling), while Donald Trump Jr called it 'adoptions'(which fundamentally that act is about. It was a ticky tact restriction opposed on the Russians, apparently in retailation for its typical authoritarian execution-style prosecution.)

    And so, while it happened. The context in which it happened has bore false. In fact, I've no doubt it's going to be one of the examples of the "many opportunities" that the Russians had to peddle the dirt(quoting Barr's summary.) because even the Russian lawyer had to state under oath, that there was no "there", there.

    So yes, that'd be one of the examples of sensationalism that we dealt with. There were many others.
     
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    Here is a supposedly straight news article. Note that it contains outright speculation. They offer no proof for the assertion. The author simply tosses it out there as if it is to be assumed true.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ent-to-fbi-over-russia-concerns-idUSKBN1EY2D4

    "Trump and some Republicans have attacked both Simpson’s firm and Steele in recent months and also questioned the impartiality of the FBI and the Justice Department in an apparent effort to discredit Mueller’s probe."

    Fake News.

    Honest reporting doesn't tell us what to think about certain facts.

    P.S. As it turned out, the basis of that story was false.
     
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