Australia admits US has lower violent crime rate

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  1. nimdabew

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    That is a big value judgement.
     
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    You completely miss the point, or your anti gun bias won't let you admit that the "experience of training" is the what they are wanting. It makes no difference if they can ever use it or not. The point is they choose to spend their time doing what your country won't let them do, and they are enjoying it. Why do you have a problem letting someone exercise their freedom without you "approving" or not.
    I know that for anti gunners, it's hard to wrap their minds around the idea that people can enjoy firearms for no other reason than it is recreational for them.
     
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    So is assuming a course centred around using an illegal weapon is useful

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    Why do you have a problem with me having to approve this? I don't like chilli either but that does not mean I will call for repeal of chilli or that I would stop you eating it
     
  4. nimdabew

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    I have taken the courses similar to the one you are describing. I value them much higher than you do, but I don't go around attributing value to other people's activities, I just don't partake. People spend their money on what is valuable to them, some people choose to use that to learn new skills and defend them selves. I won't judge.
     
  5. OrlandoChuck

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    You asked this question....
    Point is - those types of guns are not available so why learn something you can never legally own or use?
    I answered it.
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    I very much doubt that anyone is a paragon of virtue when it comes to evaluation of others activities

    It also makes sense for you to take courses like this but in all honesty - would you take an Australian desert survival course if you lived in America and had no intention of visiting us?
     
  7. nimdabew

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    If I had the excess money and time, sure, why not? Education is probably the best use of one's money and the hallmark of a more well rounded individual.

    Eta: I bet that a lot of the information in an Outback survival class would be transferable to an American desert, arid landscape, or even just day to day life. Staying willfully ignorent is not how I want to live my life.
     
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    And that is the rub - we have to prioritise our lives on a day to day basis. There are a LOT of things I think are time wasting this is merely one of them - but it puzzles me why that bothers so many It is like being an agnostic in a large congregation of devotees
     
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    Is recreation and education "time wasting"?
     
  11. nimdabew

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    And there's the value judgement. If and when I decide to take the outback survival course, then it will become valuable to me, but not before hand. These people you keep referencing made it valuable enough for them considering the time and opportunity. You are making it seem that their value of a given objective and experience isn't worth it because you don't value it.
     
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    And there will always be someone passing judgement - whether it is on the courses you take but also on your sense of fashion, how you style your hair, how fit you are or even where you were born and what colour your skin is

    Once again why is my saying that I find this course to be silly a bother to you? It is not an American course in America. It is not going to affect your precious rights in any way. You can walk away from this thread and never think about me and my opinion again and your life will be no different so WHY DOES THIS MATTER?
     

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