Average American is losing $34K and everything else on Biden’s watch

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My position is solid and the cost of living cannot be excluded if we are to have an honest discussion. Even if we close our eyes to this fact and say its the same as other impoverished parts of the country, you still have to consider the high taxes combined with abundant resources.

    If the resources weren't there, at least there would be an excuse. The fact that our politicians control such high levels of revenue and still produce these results, makes their irresponsibility even more egregious.

    Dem control combined with abundant resources and high taxes equals poverty.
     
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    Democrats think that by wrecking the economy, somehow they'll get enough extra free stuff, welfare, and subsidies from the Biden regime to compensate them for the assholing they're getting from horrendous inflation now. Oh, and you can bet that if Democrat control continues in Congress, everything will get MUCH worse than it is now!

    Too bad, Demo's -- your party's overlords only throw you their table-scraps in ELECTION YEARS. So, get ready to SUFFER until 2024.... :roflol:
     
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    Voters agree: GOP to take House and Senate.

    'In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, just shared with Secrets, likely voters expect the Republicans to win control of the House. And it’s not even close, with 67% agreeing to 17% who don’t. Even 56% of Democrats expect their party to lose control of the House.'

    Then the next battle will be to get the GOP to actually unwind some of the destruction.

    Dems want power so they can impose their vile authoritarianism.
    GOP wants power so they can sit in the majority and take in graft.

    The GOP is perfectly content with getting the majority and then not doing much of anything but getting richer.

    LAWLESSNESS, FULL SPEED AHEAD: Kevin McCarthy Says GOP Won’t Move to Impeach Biden or Administration Officials.

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    GOP should go with someone other than this Paul Ryan clone.

    'In America today, we have a two-party system: the Stupid Party and the Evil Party. The Evil Party sets the agenda and pursues its aims relentlessly and ruthlessly; the Stupid Party registers a polite token opposition and then fully agrees to whatever the Evil Party wants, occasionally only arguing that it can implement the Evil Party’s program more effectively than the Evil Party itself. We saw this play out yet again Wednesday, when Stupid Party House Leader Kevin McCarthy (S-California) downplayed any talk of impeaching Old Joe Biden or any of his cronies if the Stupids retake the House in the midterm elections. McCarthy is still playing by rules that the Evil Party discarded long ago, and that’s why he and his fellow Stupid Party members keep losing.'

    Well, we win more. The GOP has held the house for twice the time that the Dems have since '94, we undid next to nothing that the Dems did during the brief periods they hold power. So Dems get power and then encroach on our freedom, the GOP gets control, which stops further encroachment until the Dems next surge, but, the GOP does little to restore our freedom while they have the power to do so.

    I think that the ultimate solution will be the State Legislatures working in concert to return more federal power to the States and the People.
     
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    Except in all other poverty guidelines do not include them so your "honest discussion" remark hinges on a variable that is not used.....except by you.
    Do you? Because you say so?
    What would you do?
    In the last 100 years there have been 10 Republican Govornors and 5 Democrats. To blame problems on Democrats is demonstratively dishonest.
     
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    Trump has been subpoenaed. He said that he might appear if the hearing is televised.

    But, it no longer matters what Trump says. He lies so much, creates so many diversions, he doesn't know the difference between fantasy and reality. To him, reality is what he says it is.

    The Times reports, "The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack issued a subpoena on Friday to Donald J. Trump, paving the way for a potentially historic court fight over whether Congress can compel testimony from a former president.

    "The subpoena was the most aggressive step taken so far by what was already one of the most consequential congressional investigations in decades. It comes as the Justice Department conducts a separate criminal inquiry into efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

    "In an attempt to persuade Mr. Trump to comply, the committee was quick to cite numerous examples of former presidents, from John Quincy Adams to Gerald R. Ford, who have testified before Congress after they left office.

    CNN reports, "Unlike with previous subpoena announcements, the committee released on Friday the entire subpoena it sent to Trump along with the documents it is requesting.

    "It says Trump “purposely and maliciously” disseminated false claims that the 2020 election was stolen in order to help his plan to overturn the election and to solicit contributions. The committee paints Trump as “orchestrating and overseeing” the effort to obtain false state electors. On pressure campaigns Trump enacted, the panel highlight says Trump attempted to “corrupt the Department of Justice,” by getting officials to make “false statements,” illegally pressured state officials to change election results, pressured former Vice President Mike Pence to refuse to count electoral votes on January 6 “despite knowing specifically that it was illegal,” and pressured members of Congress to object to valid electors," CNN.
     
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    Sandy Shanks said:
    "It says Trump “purposely and maliciously” disseminated false claims that the 2020 election was stolen in order to help his plan to overturn the election and to solicit contributions. The committee paints Trump as “orchestrating and overseeing” the effort to obtain false state electors."

    The Republican Party is expected to win control of Congress in less than three weeks.

    Republicans don't care what their party leader has done, what crimes he has committed. They don't care that the Republican Party is responsible for an attempted coup, an attempt to overthrow our elected government. 147 Republicans voted to overturn the election.

    Republicans, including those who vote, are a threat to American democracy. Republican voters support an attempt to overthrow our government.

    They are concerned about inflation.
     
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    Forget about a newly invigorated 10th Amendment, Zorro. Abraham Lincoln crippled it permanently, and so we in the so-called "sovereign" states will have to continue to bow to the whims of the federal government in ways our Founding Fathers NEVER intended.

    And don't be too optimistic about kicking these America-hating, 'woke' Democrats out of power, either. That oblivious IDIOT, Justice Alito, may have thoroughly ruined our chances of getting rid of them in January.

    Besides, half our population is on welfare-suck or 'subsidies' now... and who shovels out more 'free stuff' than Democrats in an election-year...?
     
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    We'll see.

    It seems like a strong GOP year is shaping up.

    https://electionbettingodds.com/

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    Desperate Americans have an opportunity to vote in just 17 days for a return to reason and prosperity.

    While Americans focus on bread and butter, Dems frolic.

    “The White House invited Dylan Mulvaney — the transgender activist who went viral for documenting ‘days of girlhood.'”

    'Dylan has been a breakout sensation for making a series of TikTok videos documenting his “days of girlhood.” Dylan, you see, is a grown man pretending to be not even a woman, but a young girl. A sort of auto-pedophilia, I guess, and apparently just the sort of person that Joe Biden needs to meet so that he can sniff the hair of an exotic “child.” After 8 decades of sniffing cis-girls, the aging president needs ever stranger thrills to keep him interested.'

    'Dylan is a perfect match for the insanity of our times.'

    'Dylan’s rise to stardom has been meteoric. A few months ago he was an adult male with nobody to celebrate him, but since creating videos of himself pretending to be a female child prancing through forests he has become not just a TikTok sensation, but a cultural icon fit to sit down with the President of the United States.'

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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im not here towing a party line. Reps are awful. Based on actual, non-partisan results, Dems are worse.

    You were going to post a link showing our poor own homes.
     
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    Of course you're towing a party line, it's just more dishonesty on your part like I said I would provide a link. I never said that.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are incorrect. You did attempt to downplay poverty with a false statement. Home ownership is out of reach for the poor in CA.

    You addressed my list of facts with a list of false statements. Do you have anything truthful to address the list of facts I posted?

    Dem control combined with abundant resources and high taxes equals more poverty.
     
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    Oh, come on. The matrix you are using to claim to put people in poverty is exactly why they are home owners. Do you even understand the point you're trying to make?
     
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    "nuh uh" is not a valid argument. Can you address any of the facts I listed and backed up?
     
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    I did, oh wait, you didn't read any of the links I provided. Not my problem
     
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    I had a link ready to show how home ownership was out of reach to the poor in CA, but you already admitted you cannot back up your false claim.

    You cannot make a case than Dem control combined with abundant resources and high taxes is better for society. Results speak for themselves.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Home ownership is out of reach to all the poor. I did back up my claim, not my problem you can't/won't admit it.
     
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    I admire your willingness to stand corrected. Home ownership rates in CA are among the lowest in the country. We can add that to the list of results that can be expected.

    Are you still holding onto your claim that its the dollar amount, not the buying power of that dollar, that qualifies one as living in poverty?
     
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    You haven't corrected anything. The poor can't afford housing, that's universal.
    It always has been. It hasn't changed much in 60yrs.. Then is was 58% now 56%. How do you square that?
    Oh yeah
     
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    Well, at some point it may occur to the "poor" that if things are too expensive in, say, La Jolla, the Hamptons, Manhattan, etc., etc., that maybe (MAYBE) it makes a lot more sense to relocate themselves to places where the cost of everything, including houses, is a lot less. Here's a ton of places to consider: https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/search/cities-with-the-lowest-cost-of-living/

    If I were 'threadbare'-poor, I'd head straight for some part of Louisiana, Mississippi, or Alabama, where the winters are much warmer and the cost of living is the lowest in the country. What makes no sense is that there are so many of them ganged-up in places like San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, San Diego, Austin, and other Democrat-dominated 'Shangri-La's'... unless, it's merely to get all the free welfare handouts, taxpayer provided "services", easy access to drugs of all kinds, etc., etc.
     
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    But you said the poor own $500K/$600K homes. Now you are admitting that the poor can't afford housing. This is a good start.

    There are more false statements that need correcting, for example: "The cost of living is not a factor in poverty." There is no way to defend this position. It is not the amount of dollars they have; its the purchasing power of if their dollars.

    You can criticize Republicans and I will join you. You can't honestly say that Dems are better. Results show the opposite.
     
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    Aren't those available everywhere, you know, as soon as you cross the border? Red and Blue states?
     
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    What I said was that "poor" by YOUR definition, own those homes. YOUR definition puts a whole different point on where the bar is for poor.
    Dems are better. There, I said it and I stand by it.
     
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    Another false statement. I never gave "my' definition of poor. I used a widely accepted view and showed how Dem-controlled California leads the nation in poverty in spite of having abundant resources and high taxes.

    If you want to know my definition of poor, I will be happy to share it with you.

    Meanwhile, you will have to show actual results showing what you consider "Better" or you are only standing by a position you cannot defend on merit. (Flat Earthers and religious people stand by their position as well.)
     
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    It stinks to hack someone's post, leaving only a remnant for your response. I don't do that to you... so, don't do that to me, OK?

    Next, are you saying that the welfare goodies for slackers and bums is the SAME in every state, and in every city in those states...? So you say that the "services", handouts, and all the rest of it is as good in, say, Pigfart, Alabama as it is in San Francisco? Then why aren't websites full of images of block after block of homeless tent camps in Pigfart like they are in all the big Democrat slums all over the place...?
     

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