Average American is losing $34K and everything else on Biden’s watch

I don't how young people can even afford an apartment these days at over $1,000 a month. When you have to pay that much, you can't save anything to get something better.

The Democrats want to warehouse everyone, who is not filthy rich, in government run housing projects. That way they can keep them poor and dependent on government ... And voting Democrat.

The trouble is the government can't even provide that, you end up like Venezuela.

 

Not false at all. The way you defined poor is NOT a widely accepted view as I showed any you choose to igore. Not my problem.

Go ahead, knock yourself out

Like I have proven, California has been having this "problem" for 60 years. During that time there have been 14 R govornors and 10 D govornors.. It would seem that Repubs had a lot more time to "fix" the problem.
The fact is people are STILL flocking to California to live despite what Fox tells people.

 

I "hacked" your post for the simple reason of being tired of the same song of "free stuff" in D sites and not R sites....but to your point. San Fran is a major city compared to Pigfart, Alabama and I'm sure they have a lot more services than Pigfart. Second, the state of Alabama itself is able to exist in the manor it does because of the "free stuff" it gets from the Federal Government.

 

Well, Roy, here's the truth... although I've been "unaffiliated" since summer of 2017 (got disgusted with all the RINO's masquerading as so-called Conservative Republicans), I can truthfully say that as a Conservative Republican for decades, I never -- EVER -- got 'free stuff' from the government.

One of the best examples I give of the disparity in the way that people are treated by the government is the one about a guy I know very well... a working taxpayer all his life, who had to lay out over $10,000 for dental work and two partial dentures (upper, and, lower). In the same IT company he worked for, there was this other guy who, coincidentally, had almost identical dental work done, and dentures, too.

The difference -- the guy I know paid $10,000+ -- but the other guy, a really obnoxiously liberal Democrat, got all of the expense paid for by Medicaid AT NO COST TO HIM AT ALL. . Now, if that seems fair and right to you, then at least we are able to identify one very key difference between your viewpoint, and that of many of the rest of us -- who get to PAY for all these Democrat welfare handouts....

But who express it better than one of our foremost Founding Fathers, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN...

 

Im not here defending Rs. They suck too! Ds are just a little worse.

Your list of false statements is getting longer. Please show where people are flocking to CA.

 

We have a 'perfect storm' forming, and I predict that it's going to hit -- and hit hard in Q1, 2023 -- no matter who comes out on top in the elections on Nov. 8th.

One of the clearest indicators is credit card debt, and it is SOARING right now, and will continue to do so right through the upcoming 'holiday' season. By about the end of next January, we will see the unmistakable beginnings of some real trouble!

How have people been 'fighting inflation'...? They've simply been maxxing out their credit cards and/or getting even more credit cards instead of cutting back. And THAT has created the illusion that any of Biden's political stunts have really been helping the economy!

Here's some recent news (October 17th) that kind of foretells the 'hangover' that already is taking shape right after the drunken irresponsibility of holiday spending ends: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/10/17/credit-card-debt-interest-rates/

And even though it seems likely that the Federal Reserve will try to put an optimistic face on its baby-step approach to raising interest rates by announcing a diminished half-point increase at its meeting on November 2nd, the damage the Fed created by flooding the planet with waves of imaginary dollars at near-zero percent interest for over twelve years has been done... and now comes even MORE inflation, along with widespread layoffs, personal and corporate bankruptcies, repossessions, mortgage foreclosures -- you name it.

So, live it up and have a wonderful time between now and January -- because, assuming we aren't sucked into a real, no-bullshit war with Russia and China by then, we'll look back and remember right now as the last of "the good old days"....






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Don't see the relevance of this statement. I guess the only answer I can say is.....Ok?

So you have given all the information needed here with your example, right? Person A and Person B. Both have the same job, same town everything the same.....right?
Person A pays 10K for service
Person B gets the same service for free and the ONLY difference in the two examples is one (apparently) is Republican and the other is "obnoxiously liberal Democrat" in quotes because I guess a regular old Democrat wouldn't have gotten the "free stuff".
I think not. Something's missing in the equation.

 

Too hard for you to look up a census report?

 

Its your claim. Are people flocking to CA or are people getting the flock out of here? Link please.

 

Naw, nothing's "missing in the equation", Roy, except that one guy in my example is a parasite who gets $10,000 in dental services for FREE through Medicaid, and the other guy (I did not state what his political affiliation is) had to pay the $10,000 out of his pocket. Oh... I think his company-provided dental insurance paid a whopping $1,700 for all his dental benefits (in a 12-month period, minus a $100 deductible). Um, yeah, thus he was only hit for $8,400 for the denture work... so, I guess it wasn't such a great example after all.... Lucky him....

But I will add that I although nearly all Democrats were reasonable, sensible, decent, America-loving, hard-working, taxpaying people back when I grew up in Texas in the 1960's and 1970's, that sure as hell is not (NOT) true today -- nor has it been true for about the last thirty years!

. President John F. Kennedy... the greatest Democratic Party president in our history!





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Sorry, but no. WHY did one get it paid by Medicaid and the other did not. Both were working at the same place. What am I missing?

 

During the Reagan-to-Trump timeline, the Republican presidencies had four recessions start in their terms: one each under Reagan and George H. W. Bush, and two under George W. Bush. By contrast, Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had zero. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...versee-recessions-dems-recoveries/5235957002/

I continue to be amazed that Americans have such a negative attitude toward our economy. The misguided logic is, of course, due to serious inflation. To be frank, that logic is due to ignorance.

The lowest unemployment rate in a half-century plus job growth causes, of course, robust spending. Guess what, and this is what Americans don't realize.

Robust spending causes inflation.

The opposite is true. High unemployment causes less spending, and that occurs during a recession. Something the Republican Party is good at.

ABC reports, "The U.S. economy expanded significantly to kick off the second half of the year, marking a dramatic reversal from the contraction experienced over the first six months, government data showed.

"U.S. gross domestic product grew 2.6% over the three months ending in September, according to data released Thursday. By contrast, economic activity shrank a combined 2.2% over the first six months of the year.

"The data arrives less than two weeks before the midterm elections, possibly bolstering Democratic claims of economic stewardship as polls show voters prefer Republicans on the issue."

If voters want high unemployment, an economy that is contracting not expanding, causing less spending and more unemployment, if voters want a recession, vote Republican.

If voters want record-setting low unemployment, a lively, expanding prosperous economy, causing robust spending and lower unemployment, inflation, in other words, the economy we have now, vote Democratic.

It's really quite simple.

 

That is so patronizing and out of touch. They are paying $500/mo for inflation and you are telling them they are stupid for saying it has to stop.

You illustrate EXACTLY why Dems are facing a building bloodbath.

Democrats Debate Themselves: Why Do We Suck?



'Too woke, argued former president Barack Obama in a Pod Save America interview with his former aides. Some Democrats are a “buzzkill,” he suggested, by making people “feel as if they are walking on eggshells” that they might say things “the wrong way.”'

The deplatforming censorious Karens were certainly no help.

'Too timid on the jobs and economy message, warned Sen. Bernie Sanders. “Young people and working people” won’t turn out, he told CNN, without “a strong, pro-worker Democratic position.”'

He's right that the economy is a problem, but, his 'solutions' won't help increase the supply of goods and services for Free and Prosperous People.

'Too much reliance on abortion-rights positioning, not enough on anti-crime, said James Carville, who believes his 1990s-era political instincts are not as obsolete as a younger generation of liberals believes.'

Carville is a formidable reader of the working and middle-class he generally is right on the money.

'A weak message (and by implication so-so substance) on inflation, pronounced former Sen. Al Franken on his podcast, acknowledging he is “stressed out” by what may happen next month. “Things have not been trending in the right direction of late.”'

They were worse than "weak" they clearly couldn't give two craps until less than two weeks when it became undeniable that it was going to cause them to lose seats, and even then they just screamed, shrieked and finger pointed, they still aren't offering solutions that will increase the supply of goods and services that are required by a Free and Prosperous People.

 

The one who paid for his dental work himself was a regular, "badged", salaried employee. The Medicaid guy was an independent "contractor" working on a six-month contract. If you ever work much in today's corporate, free-market world, you see plenty of both.

No matter, Roy... in addition to giving Americans the Vietnam War, Democrat President Lyndon Johnson also saddled us with both Medicare and Medicaid.

. "Give 'em 'somethin' for nothin' and they'll vote Democrat forever!"




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Actually, it does matter. A lot. That's why you immediately changed the subject.

 

Inflation and Crime are decimating the Democrats, yet note than the first page of the Politics forum is dominated by the topics that too many on the Left prefer to meeting the growing needs of a prosperous Free People. They seem to think that if they can control the conversation and keep it on the topics that they prefer, that the voters will not hold them accountable, well, such reasoning appears flawed.

Is This Joe Biden’s Biggest Lie Ever?

Runs a 'victory lap' on the 'great' job he has done on fuel prices. They really think they can just lie their way out of anything. And the lying fake news press, which tries to savage ever statement uttered by someone in the GOP, does their best to lay smoke over these obvious lies.

Biden: "Today, the most common price of gas in America is $3.39, down from over $5 when I took office."

Gas was $2.38 a gallon when he took office. It's $3.77 today.

He's claiming he reduced gas prices by a third when he increased them by 58% and he's dumping the Strategic Petroleum reserve until the election, after which he will allow gas prices to rise as it will no longer be an election danger to Dems!

Everyone knows this. The lying doesn't seem to be working for them.

 

Blaming Democrats for inflation and market declines is either demagoguery or a weak understanding of economics. At most, we can blame Democrats for a point or two of inflation because of the last stimulus package. Markets would have declined under Republicans.

Huh?

The economy hasn't been destroyed.

We have a four decade problem that neither party has addressed.

 

Republican lies seem to be working. How many people know economic growth in Obama's last three years was almost identical to Trump's first three?

 

What matters to folks and what Dems seem to the think they can escape accountability for, is that TODAY'S inflation is costing the average family $500/mo.

How a Diesel Shortage Could Cripple the U.S. Economy.

 

I explained, in much detail, the difference in the employment status of both the people in my example concerning dental expenses. If you had trouble following along with something so simple as that, then life must really be difficult for you at times... you have my sympathy.

But, I'm sure you didn't want to dwell on my sidebar about Lyndon Johnson... after all, what liberal would...?

 

Since they didn't cause the problem, they aren't accountable.

Inflation is a much larger problem than ours alone.

 

What would have been better? Almost half of Medicaid goes toward skilled nursing care for Americans with less than $2,000 in personal assets.

 

That's not how voters see it. Dems have done nothing effective about inflation for years. They couldn't care less about it until it became clear that it was going to finally hurt them.

Too little, too late, and you're still not offering solutions, you're just claiming that Dems are helpless. Well, why the hell would we vote for someone who claims to be helpless about our greatest concern?

'Americans struggling with sky-high gas prices and grocery bills prefer Republicans over Democrats (36% to 21%) to deal with inflation, which has reached 40-year highs, the ABC News/Ipsos poll found.'

'On the economy, 36% of voters choose Republicans to do a better job, compared to the 24% who trust Democrats.'

But, the GOP will not do crap if we don't make it absolutely clear that their re-election depends on it.

'When it comes to crime — which has become a rallying issue for GOP candidates across the country — Americans give Republicans the nod over Democrats (35% to 22%).'

And now this terrible news:



'Nancy Pelosi's husband, 82, hospitalized after being beaten with a hammer during break-in.'

Now that the lawless wave they have unleashed on us all touches them, now they will be ready to once again enforce the rule of law that a civil society needs. That must have been terrifying for Mr. Pelosi, it appears that he is expected to make a full recovering, thank God.

 

Wrong.



Both parties didn't want a repeat of the late 1960s and 1970s.

Since my graph shows you're wrong...

Rather than take steam out of the system by just jacking up interest rates, I would also put a surtax on people who cleaned up in the stock market recently.

I think you're better informed than most, but you didn't know about inflation. Most Americans have no clue about economics. There's plenty of blame in both parties for this...

Since the mid-1970s, full-time workers have had almost no increase in their real wage. Part-time workers are in even worse shape.

While Republicans help create criminals, Democrats refuse to catch them. The government fails at the most basic level when it doesn't protect its citizens.

 

You say 'wrong' and then post a chart that doesn't include this election cycle?

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$500/mo just to pay for Biden/Dems inflation, isn't something that you can pretend away.

The Median American was born in 1983, they don't give a damn about what happened in the 60's and 70's they are about what is happening in the grocery store and at the gas pump, today.

That's the problem. Neither approach is going to increase the supply of goods and services that a prosperous Free People need. The Fed approach isn't going to help, as rates climb, they climb for the Fed as well, as as the Fed rolls over notes and sells notes to fund the deficit, they too pay the higher rates. They also pay higher interest to the banks that park their funds at the Fed.

And as interest rates go up, the value of the notes the Fed holds go down in value and they have to mark to market.

'We estimate that the Fed’s balance sheet as of mid-October suffers from a $1.3 trillion mark-to-market loss. That is 30 times the Fed’s total capital of $42 billion. To put the size of this loss in perspective, it is nearly equal to Spain’s GDP and larger than the GDP of Indonesia.'

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3705053-the-fed-is-in-the-red-should-it-still-pay-cfpbs-bills/

And, we have a looming wave of bankruptcies and layoffs, which will further reduce the supply of goods and services. We could see the Federal Government having to dedicate $750B/yr just to keep the Fed afloat, which of course will mean more borrowing, which the Fed will facilitate through more note sales, which is essentially getting more credit cards to make the minimum payments on the cards you already have maxed.

But, enough of the problems, let's talk solutions. The solution always has been and always will be, the freedom to engage in commerce with one another, supplying the things that each other needs. You probably aren't an equestrian, but, you should be able to visualize this anyway. When you find yourself in steep dangerous terrain on top of a horse, the best thing you can do is drop the reins and 'give the horse his head'. The horse will never go off the cliff unless over directed and confused by the idiot trying to control him. Leave him on his own and he'll get you to safety.

We in a similar position. We have idiots, that have no idea what they are doing, though they do manage to get rich in the process, trying to direct everything and it's an unholy mess. They need to slowly back the fk off and let the American People work their way out of this. We are always the solution. We have always been the solution.

Let's see how the election goes, like Winston Churchill said: "You can trust the Americans to make the right choice, after they have tried everything else." Well, I think we've tried everything else. Now we need to insist our freedom and use it to resume our prosperity.

11 days. Vote for Freedom and Liberty. Vote for folks smart enough to get the hell out of our way.