Ayn Rand has ruined Paul Ryan

Every time Paul Ryan proposes one of his Ayn Rand draconian budgets, something or someone always seems to stop him from getting them passed. Seeing that Ryan went to the catholic church, and every time sister Simone shows up, she seems to throw a wrench in Ryan's Ayn Rand budget agenda. When she comes around, he is too scared to confront her about her views on his budget, and so, the budget plan of his ends up in the trash bin. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/ns/msnbc-the_last_word/vp/52637618#52647978

 

Doing things for yourself is "draconian" now. Unbelievable. We've truly become a nation of children who refuse to be weened from the government teat.

 

Draconian? Are you kidding me? It will take nearly 40 years for his plan to make the budget balance!

Clearly, you don't know what the word means.

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/draconian. The word is spot on in relation to his budget.

 

Draconian budgets that increase spending every year? That simply slow the rate of growth in spending?

 

Except in the case of Paul Ryan, he would rather use the government teat to subsidize those who don't need it, such as giving those subsidies of the farm bill to people in government office, "FOR THEIR OWN FARM" versus those who really are in need of it. It's not that the children refuse to be weaned, they have no other choice, because other children holding government office, seem to need it more for their own personal farms. So, exactly who are the children you are talking about?

 

Nope, you still don't know what it means. If he's reducing it so gradually that it takes half my life to balance, it's neither "rigorous", nor sudden.

... Of course we know what this means, that Democrats would propose a budget that either takes a century to balance, or just doesn't bother to at all.

And no, I'm not pulling that out of my ass, they actually did that:

 

(Harsh, draconian legislation!)And the he you are talking about is Obama. The he I am talking about is Ryan. You know, the one from the opening thread. And if his budget were to ever pass, it would affect the most vulnerable immediately. But sister Simone is always there to put Ryan in his place, him being a Catholic of course.

 

No, I said Paul Ryan's budget balances in 40 years, and I meant that. And I have some of your liberals friends concurring that it'll take longer than advertised, so I know I'm right.

Obama's budget just takes even longer, or never does.

You should have known this, before you started talking about it.

I'm also Catholic, I'll take your sister, raise you a priest who specializes in economic issues.

 

Taking food stamps out of the farm bill does not mean the program will end. It meant that it will not just be blindly allowed to keep expanding year after year(it's grown 50% in 10 years under two administrations). Personally,I still disagreed with the farm bill,as it kept direct payments and the sugar program. Don't worry though. I'm sure the food stamps will be safe and sound inside the final farm bill when it comes out of conference,and that no real reforms to the program will take place.

 

Cause clearly, Ryan's budget proposals have absolutely nothing to do with the current budget. *rolls eyes*

 

Thank goodness!

 

You brought up Ayn Rand. Do you even know what she believed in? Because it doesn't sound like you do.

 

I think it's "weaned." "Ween" is an archaic word meaning to suppose. As in, "I ween we've become a nation of weenies."

Also, what do you think about the idea that people could choose to renounce their adulthood? As in, if you are disabled, stupid, or just lazy, you could give up your rights and privileges to vote drive drink smoke have sex buy guns sign documents and watch porn. You never kill people in car accidents, never have kids, and never get to complain. In return, we give you all the potatoes you want.

(Lots of potatoes!)

 

She believes in selfishness. And Ryan tries to play into her handbook by making the poor pay even more, by getting even less while handing subsidies to rich people who need it even less. That is the premise of what she stands for; self serving.

 

It is not about how much is being cut, it is about what is being cut. The lie of all this, is that the Republican party is no more committed to balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility than Democrats are. The question is not about how much to spend, it is about what to spend it on. Republicans want to give more money to those who are already very wealthy and more money to the military. The day the Republican party proposes significant cuts to the military will be the day I believe they are seriously committed to fiscal responsibility.

 

That is a day you are not likely to see.

 

I can understand that, so I say, better pray the dysfunction continues, as it seems the only avenue by which the deficit shrinks.

 

Why should we sacrafice good governance at the alter of deficit reduction? That makes absolutely no sense. What we should be more concerned with, is promoting good and efficient government. Trust me it is possible, they do it in other all the time. We just have a broken system which makes effective and efficient government nearly impossible, and an entire party rhetorically committed to bad governance, because they believe good governance is impossible. That is only true because they are the ones doing the governing.

 

If Government is increasing it's deficit, while offering nothing but lip service when asked if it will stop, then it is not efficient by its very definition.

Where? Not Europe, they're in crisis, not Japan they're also in crisis.

... Oh, did you mean Canada, which has recently embraced its Conservative strain? Cut down its civil service after it refused to negotiate to lower its costs? Or perhaps you meant New Zealand who, screw an amendment, adopted a fiscal Constitution to ensure no one could spend more than they had to further political ends? Sure, I'd be willing to go that way, it's called Limited Government, have you heard of it?

 

Anyone who thinks Paul Ryan is even remotely like Ayn Rand has no idea what Ayn Rand was all about.

 

Waiting? They did this last year. Yes, sorry, I should have known, only people who care about the Catholic Church, actually pay attention to any of its internal disputes.

For someone whose making an off-hand argument, they'll be completely lost.