Bad news for Democrats: Stocks record high - Employment 1/2 Century High

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Well actually worker participation rate has been trending downward since 1995. A goodly part of the reason is that it includes high school students 16 to 19 year olds, and women a small percentage of which are still stay at home moms. It mostly represents the fact that high school students are less and less likely to have jobs as minimum wage increases. By the way all unemployment measures are down significantly in the last two years U-1 through U-6.
     
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    This of course assumes that all these regulations are actually necessary rather than bureaucratic make work a completely unwarranted assumption. When the people making the estimates are inclined to grow government reducing it just ian't going to be something of which they will approve. By the way when s the time for Deficits to come down? It's only happened once since WWII.
     
  3. MAGA

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    There Bush bank bailout loan did need some credit, but today, the economy is roaring because of the Trump deregulations and GOP Tax Cuts.
     
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    I'm sure those help just as I'm sure the tariffs hurt. All in all, the trends keep on trucking at the same rate they have been since 2009. See graphs provided above.
     
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  5. Lee Atwater

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    An Aging Population Explains Most—But Not All—of the Decline in the US Labor Force Participation Rate Since 2007

    https://piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco...-explains-most-not-all-decline-us-labor-force
     
  6. Stevew

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    Tariffs aren't necessarily hurting the U.S. at the MACROECONOMIC level.

    The U.S. is the largest CONSUMER COUNTRY on the planet. That means other countries depend more on U.S. citizens buying their goods than we depend on them buying our goods. It also means that the U.S. can easily sustain itself.

    Sooner or later, these bad trade deals will hurt other countries when we can no longer afford to buy their imports, as in continued.

    Steve
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The majority of the AMERICAN PEOPLE did not vote for Don or his policies..........which will result in a huge increase to the debt at a time of prosperity and do tremendous harm to the environment.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently not obvious enough to keep you from missing it.
     
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    For Trump's Trickle down 2018 to work, the economy has to start to pay down the deficit.

    Trump claims the economy with get to a sustained 4-5% GDP growth. For as long as I remember, balanced budgets and not deficits are the indicator of a healthy economy.

    90% of stocks are owned by 10%. We need to stop using stocks as an indicator of economic health for main street.

    Tax and spend was associated with Democrats. Now Spend and tax cut is the new GOP.

    I have to applaud Republicans for no funding all of the crazy ideas Donald j. Trump envisioned, we could be Trillions more in debt.
     
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  11. Stevew

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    I didn't say the majority. But it is becoming a majority as the PEOPLE have more money in their pockets after dems failed to do that for 8 YEARS.

    Why does it always have to come down to such simplifications with you?

    Steve
     
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    Yes but hopefully the Democrats won't run such a poor candidate the next time. And while the maco statistics look very good when it come to the middle class, the upper middle, and the poor the gains are basically minimal at best. The real gains in economic well being have been for the rich who got most of the tax cuts and are the overwhelming beneficiaries of dividend increases and stock price appreciation.
     
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    When it come down to simple look at every economic indicators when Bush left office versus when Obama left office. Employment, stock market, home prices, etc,etc were all way up and Trump has just continued the trend. The only major thing Trump has done on the economic front is massively increase the deficit with his tax cuts for himself and the other wealthy Americans.
     
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    Based on one quarter GDP which may become two but is basically just a sugar high from the tax cuts which have made corporations a lot of money, ballooned the deficit and created very few jobs.
     
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    Great so you admit so far there is no evidence to support the claim that Trump has been responsible for a significant improvement in the economy.
     
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    You are ignoring, HIGHER EXPECTATIONS OF THE FUTURE!

    This is what generates greater economic growth. Obama's economic stimulus package fell flat, when Obamacare was introduced shortly afterward. Future GDP will show the difference.



    ^ That's Obama's spin on his failure!

    Steve
     
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    Great post. Just a shame Trump supporters aren't literate enough to understand economic charts or they wouldn't keep boasting about how Trump has turned around the economy.
     
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    One assumes you can post some actual evidence in real dollars.oh and just so you know a majority is over 50% so posting averages doesn't count.
     
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    HISTORY should tell you dems will keep losing elections. After losing 1000+ seats ACROSS THE BOARD since 2010, dems haven't changed except to move further left with Obamacare leading their folly.

    Dems still don't have clue because they keep believing the same CRAP from the lying liberal media, and will keep losing elections.

    GET A CLUE!

    Steve
     
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    Profits usually are taxed. If you ever paid taxes you would know that. Now if you want to advocate for a government funded by subscription that might be interesting.
     
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    So in your mind history is eight years. What are you like ten years old?
     
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    Agree. North Dakota has the highest EMPLOYMENT RATE and lowest UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.

    Question; What do Americans want?

    1. a 72% employment rate?

    or

    2. a 2.3% unemployment rate?

    Also, statistically, and considering the fact; "We have the best performing economy", ONLY 47.5% of the U.S. population is employed. Now, who wants to try and convince me that's a great percentage? WARNING; "I'll rattle your cage"

    U.S. population; 327,295,966
    http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

    Total employed; 155,542,000
    https://stats.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

    Percent employed; 47.5%

    .....and the main reason why; Both Democrats and Republicans are too damn protectionist on immigration!

    Thus, a low percentage considering the fact WE NEED MORE REVENUES, thus, MORE PEOPLE EMPLOYED, and for anyone's info, the merit-based immigration countries all have a percentage above 52%, a high labor force participation rate, and a high employment to population ratio.
     
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    I'm certainly older than YOU ARE by your own post. :roflol:

    Steve
     
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    So you think is is juvenile to think history goes back more than eight years?

    And still waiting for your data to support your claim that over 50% of the population now has more real dollars in their pockets since Trump took office.
     
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