Baldwin says he doesn't feel guilty for 'Rust' shooting: Someone else 'is responsible'

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  1. flyboy56

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    It was the cinematographer who told Baldwin where to point it during a rehearsal. But that is old information.
     
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    He admitted to being instructed where to aim it and letting go of the hammer should not have resulted in the hammer springing back to it's seated position in a properly working gun.
     
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    Even though set rules do not allow any actor to point a weapon at anyone. Baldwin is just trying to weasel out of it in the court of public opinion. The guy just gets himself in deeper. Whoever let him do interviews is an idiot.

    That said, I have no doubt he has regret and I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
     
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    Here's Alec Baldwin and his happy family Christmas shopping for the Holidays
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    Here's Halyna Hutchins Christmas shopping for the Holidays
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    A really easy to check story too: If the hammer will lock back period, his story is bullshit. If the hammer cannot lock back at all because the part has worn or been ground down, then he's got a case.
    10 quatloos says his story is bullshit
     
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    And yet we see guns being pointed at people all the time while watching a movie.
     
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    Only in certain circumstances and often not actually pointed directly. Like the fake punches camera angles can fool you.
     
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    Maybe those who are opposed to Gun ownership, shouldn't watch Movies or TV Show that have Gun violence. I find it kind of interesting that those who pretend to be so against Guns in any way will make a bag of pop corn and watch Actors shoot um up with a bunch of fake guns on the Big screen. If Liberals truly want to eliminate Guns in the United States, here's the process, First ban ALL! Video games that promote Gun violence of any kind, 2nd Ban ALL! Movies and TV shows that promote Gun violence of any kind, 3rd Prosecute to the FULLEST extent of the law Criminals caught carrying Illegal Guns. Do all that and then come talk to us responsible and legal Gun carrying American Citizens who care about the 2nd Amendment about Gun Control.
     
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    It got labeled as an accident in a similar case, where the actor who killed a person with a prop wasn't sued over it.

    He admitted to let a hammer go of a prop who should never have fired a life round because of it.
     
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    Baldwin is a supporter of the Democrats and PETA and so a thorn in the eye of the GOP. Hence it's not the liberal who are seeking to get Baldwin to be sentenced for murder, but the gun loving GOP. All kinds of nonsense flies like it's murder because he pointed a gun at a person, which you should never do in all circumstances unless there is need to protect yourself...... while one movie after the other is made with actors pointing guns at other actors. The stupidity of the remarks shows the desperation.

    You made a similar remark with "Prosecute to the FULLEST extent of the law Criminals caught carrying Illegal Guns. Do all that and then come talk to us responsible and legal Gun carrying American Citizens who care about the 2nd Amendment about Gun Control." People are already prosecuted to the fullest extent. I do believe that you first want every illegal gun owner to be found, in order to start talking about the 2nd amendment. But that is like saying you first need to stop people being idiots and only then we can talk, while you know there is an idiot born every day and so you deliberately and dishonestly demanded a condition to be met which that can never be for the sake to always have it your way. tss tss
     
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    Well the guy in the video did have a point, if the bottom of the hammer that catches the trigger release then it is quite possible the hammer would slam forward. But as I tried to inform notme, that sort of thing would have been obvious and render the firearm unusable as the hammer would never lock in the full cocked position.. As soon as the handler let go the hammer would simply drop to the fired position..

    Like I say, Alec has claimed malfunction, so now the gun will be inspected by a gun smith and that will determine the outcome.. Bare in mind, that single action is idiot proof if in mechanically sound working order ;)
     
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    Oh bull shirt too. Had the woman's former bf broke in and shot Baldwin dead the Trumpers here would say it was Baldwin's fault for not screening her former lovers properly. Baldwin made Trump look like the crazy dick he is and now the Trumpers are going to go Nyah nyah forever.

    Baldwin had a very unfortunate ACCIDENT. Something which I'm quite certain NO conservative here has ever come CLOSE to doing and which we all know is due mainly to the fact that we don't like Trump
     
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    You can talk to Idiots all you want, but don't come talking to me first in order to order for the behavior of Idiots to be changed. Criminals are NOT! prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and if you were paying attention to the revolving door of Catch and Release that Democratic Prosecutors and District Attorneys are playing in the name of Politics, you'd understand that. My Guns are locked up in my Safe, I've never murdered, assaulted or robbed anyone in my life and I'm an expert in Firearm training, so I don't need Liberals telling me that I'm the problem, because they don't want to seriously get these Criminals off the streets permanently and Guns out of their hands. Liberals always do **** Ass backwards and want to punish the Law abiding, Hard working Americans FIRST! and in the name of Politics go after the Criminals last. That's why I absolutely loath Liberals. Halyna Hutchins is dead, because an untrained Idiot Actor named Alec Baldwin thought he was playing around with a Squirt Gun instead of a Real Gun capable of firing REAL! Bullets.
     
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    Please stop spreading misinformation.
     
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    Are you honestly surprised that there is a backlash against Baldwin when he has been very openly critical of others that have had gun accidents? Yes, it was an accident. So was Dick Cheney's. Baldwin wasn't so understanding about that accident and I doubt you were either. Baldwin wasn't so understanding about the Huntington Beach accident either. Were you? Why so understanding now?
     
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    Who is questioning it to be an accidental death? Accidental deaths happen and people are charged with manslaughter
     
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    Baldwin is a Democrat voter
     
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    Yes I anxiously await the ballistics and gun report. He claims he did not have the triggered pulled. As one expert noted he would have had to for the hammer to release all the way. And of course IT WAS POINTED AT SOMEONE. That right is negligence.
     
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    Watch the videodisc posted, yes he should have checked each bullet. He could have done so several ways.
     
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    Actually I heard one such expert who works movies say that it may look lije that due to the camera angles but in fact they aim to the side.
     
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    I didn't see any resemblance to a "crazed kid" shooting at a school but you had to bring it up didn't you.


    Not to recklessly wave it around. And STILL his responsibly once it is in his hand. That he had ANY firearm pointed at someone and released the hammer was negligent. That it resulted ina homicide ishis BIG problem.
     
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    And when I was in the Army years ago we were told not to point our M16 at anyone even though we were shooting blanks with an arrestor on the end. But we all did anyways because we thought it was fun. So of all the movies made with guns being used how many times do you suppose actors pointed their guns at each other for fun or otherwise? Your expert knows better than that. Directors want a scene to look real.
     
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    Yes in hindsight knowing what we know now. But was he required to check each round? Probably not.
     
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    A bit over the top AngryGuy?!
     
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    Making a lethal mistake with a weapon has nothing to do with your flavor of, or no flavor, for politics.
     
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