Baldwin says he doesn't feel guilty for 'Rust' shooting: Someone else 'is responsible'

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

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    I guess a little of both, fortunately my relationship with that Woman didn't go anywhere and I found the Love of my Life who's got more common sense than I do and is not an Idiot.
     
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    I agree , you are disgusted. In addition, you don’t read the actual content of my posts. You are also not willing to wait for the facts to be established by an official investigation and immediately start crying “partisanship” !

    Meanwhile, Republicans keep putting weapons into the hands of kids to go shoot up schools.
    Disgusting, hypocritical and complete disregard for people’s lives.
     
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    The guy fueling up the plane doesn't know where the plane is going. So it's not it's responsible that enough fuel is being tanked. That person is responsible for the RIGHT fuel.

    Indeed. It's not the job of an actor to load a gun. The person who did that is responsible that the RIGHT bullet was in it.
     
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    Maybe you have personal experience of some Republican placing a gun into the hand of a child and instructing aforementioned child to go shoot people?

    Your Democrat talking points as well as defense of all things Democrat has grown very long in the tooth
     
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    An actor is not the supervisor of the person loading the guns on a filmset.... unlike Madoff who was in charge of the fraud being committed.
    Is this a total shock to you?
     
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    Alec Baldwin wasn't just an Actor, but also a Producer, so he was in charge of the this Movie. He handled, pointed and fired the Gun that killed Halyna Hutchins, so he at a minimum guilty of manslaughter for his negligence and deserves at least 20 years for his stupidity, since he sentenced her to DEATH.
     
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    You could have a point about that somewhere. But the roll of a producer can go all over the place. It could have just been the creative part and/or the financial part. While other producers do the hiring of the crew needed. Rust got 5 producers. The director who also got injured is one of them. At best, they could file a lawsuit against the production company where Baldwin works as a producer (El Dorado Pictures) depending if they had a roll in guns. I doubt that he has that roll.

    There are people paid to make a prop function the way it should function. And it's obvious that they are responsible when it does not. Those people aren't actors.
     
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    You should read up on the law, it'll stop these little incidents from happening.

    and it's role, not roll.
     
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    The fuelers definitely are required to know how much fuel to load into the plane. Holy ****.

    And the actor has the last clear chance to avert disaster by simply double checking the weapon as its handed to them. This had already happened twice before on the set, causing a walk out of staff. Baldwin was on notice he needed to be careful. He wasn't. That's negligence at least, recklessness at worst.
     
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    Alec Baldwin decided to go cheap and hired a 20 year old inexperienced Armorer who caused Nicolas Cage to walk off the set, because she discharged a Weapon and he screamed that she blew his Eardrum off, Yeah! that was a smart decision wasn't it.
    https://newsnationusa.com/news/ente...rer-on-his-set-you-blew-my-fing-eardrums-off/

    I wouldn't trust her with a Super Soaker filled with Mr Bubble.
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    They are told by the pilots who calculate it. And so it happens under the supervision of the pilots. The person responsible for the props isn't supervised by an actor.

    Check or double check... it doesn't matter since an actor wouldn't see any difference between a loaded weapon with dummies or real bullets.
     
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    They use dummies for close ups, not live rounds.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/10/rust-shooting-alec-baldwin-halyna-hutchins
    Dummy rounds typically look like bullets, but are entirely fake with no propulsive power.

    Monkay dus nut kow dummias r uset dat luk lyke reel bullots.
     
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    And if the fueler doesn't put enough its his fault AND the pilots fault for not ensuring it.

    This is patently false, and an incredibly ignorant statement.
     
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    Dummies do not look like blanks do not look like live rounds. Each is easily distinguishable from the other. This is why Monke use simple language. It help Monke demonstrate the simplicity blank.jpg
     
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    Wrong...

    You just refuse to accept the written rules and protocol all actors agree too..
     
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    Your article mentions that the director said that she was supervised by a prop master and that the story was blown out of proportion.
     
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    He would if had followed procedure, and TEST FIRED THE FIREARM as he had been instructed to do ;)

     
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    The purpose of the article was to point out that she had a History of questionable habits in the past that would not make her a good candidate to be the head Armorer on a movie set, but Alec Baldwin hired her and if he trusted her judgement, accepted a Gun checked by her that had a live round in it and then he pointed it in the direction of Halyna Hutchins, then that's on him and he's guilty of her Death. I'm sure Halyna would give Alec Baldwin the Thumbs down, if she could.
     
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    You're ignoring that the pilots roll is that they calculate how much fuel is needed, and they are telling that to the people who fuel up, and so it happens under their supervision. While the guy who does the props is not supervised by the actors. So your argument is out the door.
     
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    I sourced that dummies look like live rounds.
     
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    I already responded that these guidelines are from a union and not the law. Nobody is bound to do what that union says.
     
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    Well that pretty weak man, as ridiculous as that is, it's a contract nonetheless and would have changed the entire event. You are simply grasping at anything now :(
     
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    The article mentions a rumor that is being debunked by the director. I'm not keen to trust a rumor, and it's at best disputed and so not a fact. And do source that Baldwin was he was the producer and not the other 4 producers that hired her.
     
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    Yeah! but none of the other 4 Producers fired the Gun that killed Halyna Hutchins, that is solely on Alec Baldwin. The Gun didn't magically pop up off the table, point itself at Halyna Hutchins and fire itself, so most DEFINITELY Alec Baldwin needs some serious Jail time for Manslaughter and negligence, if it's determined that anyone else on the production of this movie was also guilty of her Death, they also need to be held accountable and sent to Jail, Don't have a problem with that.
     
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    You quoted that it's a guideline. You are simply grasping at anything now :(
     

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