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Barack Obama Has "Privately Expressed Grave Concerns" About Joe Biden's 2020 White House Run

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    because they are the ones that need the liability protection...ie the restaurant

    the restaurant is the employer
     
    struth, Aug 17, 2020
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    "Barack Obama Has "Privately Expressed Grave Concerns" About Joe Biden's 2020 White House Run"

    many of us have, but Biden is still a much better choice then Trump

    would we of preferred someone younger, sure, but Trump and Biden are our choices
     
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  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it had to do with employees and customers

    if your work did not require masks and you got covid, you could not sue
     
    FreshAir, Aug 17, 2020
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  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The top 3 things Im hearing from dem voters for voting Trump or not voting at all...

    -The economy.

    -Being tough on crime.

    -Biden seems unfit to lead.

    These "concerns" from Obama were leaked for a reason-Obama wanted this out there.

    I don't think he is doing it to sink Biden, I think he's trying to distance himself from Biden.
     
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  5. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which is false, it is a general liability protection that protects businesses against employees (as well as customers)

    Maybe you can point to where in the bill where it only applies to customers.
    https://www.cornyn.senate.gov/sites/default/files/SAFETOWORKAct.pdf
     
    cd8ed, Aug 17, 2020
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  6. struth

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    sure because there is no way of knowing if that’s where you got the rona....and there is no point in costing the company any more money during the chinese pandemic
     
    struth, Aug 17, 2020
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  7. struth

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    glad you admit it didn’t just apply to employees. The point is that there is no way is saying where someone got the virus and harm the company that’s already been hit because of the chinese virus anymore
     
    struth, Aug 17, 2020
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is called contact tracing, we absolutely have a way of knowing — and it is extremely important we know where it is spreading from.

    Why should businesses be exempt from negligence? Especially when you are saying states should not be...
     
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  9. struth

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    they aren’t just from the virus...the same way i cant sue if i get the flu after i go to the ice cream shop
     
    struth, Aug 17, 2020
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    It depends on the state, if someone can prove negligence most of the time they have a case. It depends on the state “recognization of a cause of action for negligent transmission of a contagious or infectious disease”.

    According to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, federal regulations stipulate “that employers must take reasonable steps to provide a safe workplace for their employees” ... Further, employers “have a duty to protect their employees from recognized hazards”.

    Seeing that COVID is a recognized hazard the above is applicable


    You can absolutely sue an ice cream shop for negligence that causes you to get ill.


    You didn’t answer the question; “Why should businesses be exempt from negligence? Especially when you are saying states should not be...”
     
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  11. struth

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    sure if the ice cream did not if i picked up a cold from waiting in line
     
    struth, Aug 17, 2020
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    Yes Obama did. What was the ?
    White Liberal $ $ $





    Obama, Kamala, Biden represents so much
    "who else y'gonna" vote for as the anointed candidate.





    The Destruction of Al Franken, Senator from Minnesota
    was a sham of due process.
    Likewise Bernie Sanders' '16 and the DNC that already decided it was , "Hillary"
    before any primaries.



    Go Figure!
    I can't​
     
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    This statement isn’t intelligible and definitely doesn’t answer my question.
     
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  14. struth

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    sorry if the ice cream was the cause...not i simply picked up a cold big in line waiting for it...likewise if the person dipping the ice cream catching a cold bug they can’t sue the store.

    There is a natural inherit risk with living in the world and the ice cream shop shouldn’t be tied up in court over every bug like that
     
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    If someone can prove the ice cream shop ignored basic hygiene standards they open themselves up to suit.
    You know all those posters you see in public facilities, they are mandated by law.
     
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    good luck that lawsuit for the cold...it will be tossed and you’ll simply waste your money and the small businesses money
     
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    The argument that COVID is similar to the cold is disingenuous at best.
    I guess my company can drop our disease insurance policy since we are immune from lawsuits!
     
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  18. struth

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    well the bill wasn’t passed

    they are both viruses.. that spread easily...children are actually at greater risk of getting much sicker from a common cold
     
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    There is plenty of desperation - you just have to watch Trump closely. The very fact he is trying to disenfranchise voters by interfering with the mail speaks volumes
     
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  20. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He isn't interfering with the mail. Even if you read that online.
     
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  21. The Mello Guy

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    Yes you apple the rate to the count.
    So 56k homeless would see about 170 people die. Give or take
     
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    Gotta love how desperate conservatives are. When an unnamed source says bad things about Trump, “fake news!” When an unnamed source says bad things about Biden, it is undeniably true.
     
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    huh, What? The death rate is per population, not per homeless people. lol
     
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  24. The Mello Guy

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    You said “321homeless deaths per 100,000 people” then claimed there are 59k homeless
     
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    Come on man, Really. The death rate of the homeless in NY is 321 per 100,000 people, not per 100,000 homeless. Death rates are calculated by total population. Not a segment of the population.
     
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