Barack Obama's Response To The US Withdrawal From The JCPOA

Ericb760 · May 8, 2018

Steve N said: ↑

Not since Biden called him an articulate black man.
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So, never....Got it.

straight ahead · May 8, 2018

Steve N said: ↑

Obama is trying to save his legacy and not look like a fool.
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He's gonna need a bigger boat.

Grokmaster · May 8, 2018

Ericb760 said: ↑

Read it. Every. Single. Word.

This withdrawal is a prelude to war.

There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.

Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.

Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749
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Says this guy:

Sharpie · May 8, 2018

Ericb760 said: ↑

Read it. Every. Single. Word.

This withdrawal is a prelude to war.

There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.

Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.

Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749
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This isn't a treaty. It is Obama's personal pledge - a really stupid one - made without support of Congress. Senator Sasse, who is not a Trump supporter said,"Today President Trump is pulling out of President Obama's personal commitment, and he doesn't need Congress's support to do so. American foreign policy makes lasting progress when it is led by the President, approved by Congress, and presented honestly to the American People."
That about covers it.

I'm guessing you don't know ran is enriching uranium and launching missiles. Ok with you, right?
It's a dangerous world - even more so with retards like Obama's and Kerry's treasonous meddling.

Ericb760 · May 9, 2018

Sharpie said: ↑

This isn't a treaty. It is Obama's personal pledge - a really stupid one - made without support of Congress. Senator Sasse, who is not a Trump supporter said,"Today President Trump is pulling out of President Obama's personal commitment, and he doesn't need Congress's support to do so. American foreign policy makes lasting progress when it is led by the President, approved by Congress, and presented honestly to the American People."
That about covers it.

I'm guessing you don't know ran is enriching uranium and launching missiles. Ok with you, right?
It's a dangerous world - even more so with retards like Obama's and Kerry's treasonous meddling.
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What part of this did you fail to comprehend (or even read)?

"Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it."

APACHERAT · May 9, 2018

Ericb760 said: ↑

Read it. Every. Single. Word.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749
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Poor Barack, eight years down the crapper with no legacy except being the best gun salesman for eight years in a row and some 17 year old snowflake from Parkland, Florida will win that award this year.

Grokmaster · May 9, 2018

straight ahead said: ↑

He's gonna need a bigger boat.
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Grokmaster · May 9, 2018

APACHERAT said: ↑

Poor Barack, eight years down the crapper with no legacy except being the best gun salesman for eight years in a row and some 17 year old snowflake from Parkland, Florida will win that award this year.
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Bwahahaha !!! That is just BRUTAL !!! And I like it...

JakeJ · May 9, 2018

IRAN is in a TERRIBLE spot now.

What do they do? Does Iran KEEP the deal because of the EU, Russia and China - while the USA is hitting Iran with sanctions... OR does Iran break the deal - with EU sanctions also going back into place?

This was a BRILLIANT move by Trump to force a BETTER deal. Iran has no choice.

ONE thing the President could do is GIVE A DAMN about AMERICANS BEING HELD IN IRANIAN PRISONS to get them released, where Obama didn't care a damn about those Americans.

JakeJ · May 9, 2018

FreshAir said: ↑

yep, Trump can't erase America's first black President know matter how hard he tries, and Trump is not even half the president Obama was, that is why he hates him so much
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And Democrats decided they would ONLY allow WHITE people to run to be their nominee in 2016, didn't they? Democrats were given the choice between white men OR a white woman.

Grokmaster · May 9, 2018

Capt Nice said: ↑

Close. He's a lot less than a puppet. He's a two bit bum that has spent his entire life in the sewer and is bringing us down to his level.
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Ericb760 · May 9, 2018

JakeJ said: ↑

ONE thing the President could do is GIVE A DAMN about AMERICANS BEING HELD IN IRANIAN PRISONS to get them released, where Obama didn't care a damn about those Americans.
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If he gave a damn about American prisoners in Iran he could have made that a stipulation for not pulling out of the deal. He cares more about dismantling Obama's successes than he does about those Americans.

Ericb760 · May 9, 2018

Grokmaster said: ↑

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He wasn't a Republican until he decided to run. He was a New York Liberal his entire life, but he knew they would never vote for him, being the charade that he is. Heck, he even explained it here:

Grokmaster · May 9, 2018

Ericb760 said: ↑

He wasn't a Republican until he decided to run. He was a New York Liberal his entire life, but he knew they would never vote for him, being the charade that he is. Heck, he even explained it here:

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He learned. The left never does.

Professor Peabody · May 9, 2018

Ericb760 said: ↑

Read it. Every. Single. Word.

This withdrawal is a prelude to war.

There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.

Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.

Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749
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Barack Obama is the biggest idiot to ever sit in the oval office.

ThelmaMay · May 9, 2018

Ericb760 said: ↑

Read it. Every. Single. Word.

This withdrawal is a prelude to war.

There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.

Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.

Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749
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Trump is making the world less safe and less stable.

ThelmaMay · May 9, 2018

Professor Peabody said: ↑

Barack Obama is the biggest idiot to ever sit in the oval office.
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OMG!!! The irony, the irony, the irony.

Grokmaster · May 9, 2018

ThelmaMay said: ↑

Trump is making the world less safe and less stable.
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Hardly. The feckless Obama's APPEASING despots , like Iran makes the world less safe. Ask Neville Chamberlain...

This is the path to DESTRUCTION.. not standing up to despots:

MrTLegal · May 9, 2018

Your Best Friend said: ↑

It's nonsense and Iran is far more likely to have their bomb in a few year's time (as everyone agrees) with this agreement than without it.
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...why?

MrTLegal · May 9, 2018

Borat said: ↑

The stock price doesn't yield any tax dollars and does not create a single job. Jeez, do I have to teach you people everything?

The fact that the stock price did not move today shows that the deal is either not in jeopardy or is not worth all that much or both.

PS no need to thank me but do try to memorize the lesson.
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You forget the possibility that Boeing stock might not have moved today because investors had already knocked it due to the likelihood that Trump would withdraw. You forget the possibility that the stock would have increased significantly if Trump had decided to remain in the deal and thus their multi-billion dollar deal could have gone forward.

MrTLegal · May 9, 2018

ocean515 said: ↑

How so?

Do you believe Iran intends to violate it's agreements with Germany, France, GB, etc.?

If so, simply because the US has changed course, how strong was this agreement?
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The withdrawal of the US makes it more likely that the US will put pressure on those other countries to withdraw from the deal as well. Trump threatened economic sanctions against those countries who assist Iran financially, which would include many of the other signatories to the deal.

And given that there is no other plan in place, Trump has made it more likely that Iran will obtain a nuclear bomb.

MrTLegal · May 9, 2018

Steve N said: ↑

A sitting president with more information at hand gave his reasoning for ending the deal. How arrogant is it of Obama to think he knows better.
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The "more information" that he had at hand is that Obama did something. And that is enough reasoning for the sitting president to think himself arrogant enough to know better.

ThelmaMay · May 9, 2018

Ericb760 said: ↑

If he gave a damn about American prisoners in Iran he could have made that a stipulation for not pulling out of the deal. He cares more about dismantling Obama's successes than he does about those Americans.
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Trump is a simple minded buffoon.

MrTLegal · May 9, 2018

Sharpie said: ↑

This isn't a treaty. It is Obama's personal pledge - a really stupid one - made without support of Congress. Senator Sasse, who is not a Trump supporter said,"Today President Trump is pulling out of President Obama's personal commitment, and he doesn't need Congress's support to do so. American foreign policy makes lasting progress when it is led by the President, approved by Congress, and presented honestly to the American People."
That about covers it.

I'm guessing you don't know ran is enriching uranium and launching missiles. Ok with you, right?
It's a dangerous world - even more so with retards like Obama's and Kerry's treasonous meddling.
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This deal was far more than a personal pledge. It was the first international agreement between the United States, six of the most powerful nations on Earth, and Iran in 40 years. And this deal, which subjected Iran to the most intrusive and invasive nuclear inspection regime in the world, carried the full weight and effect of the United States, even if it was never ratified as a treaty. By reneging - even if done so legally as Sasse notes - on one of the most effective arms control deals in history, trump has weakened the word and bond of the US, made us weaker in terms of current standing internationally, and made the planet a more dangerous place.

Iran was allowed to legally enrich uranium and to legally launch missiles. Without this deal, they are legally allowed to build nuclear bombs.

ocean515 · May 9, 2018

MrTLegal said: ↑

The withdrawal of the US makes it more likely that the US will put pressure on those other countries to withdraw from the deal as well. Trump threatened economic sanctions against those countries who assist Iran financially, which would include many of the other signatories to the deal.

And given that there is no other plan in place, Trump has made it more likely that Iran will obtain a nuclear bomb.
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If Iran wants a nuclear bomb, it will get it, regardless of the "deal" Obama and the other Nations put in place. NK has proven that course can be followed.

I have no doubt the US will put pressure on the other Nations to either withdrawal, or work with the US to toughen up what was originally negotiated.

However, the "deal" wasn't just between Iran and the US. There are what 5 other nations/groups party to the agreement. Unless there is a all or nothing provision, why would Iran risk their more important economic ties with Europe, just because the US back out?

In the end, IMO, this Nuclear Navy deal could be far more ominous than the charade that has been paraded as a good deal for all.

Really, no military facility inspections? Seems to me that's a great place to hide activities this deal was designed to stop.

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