Barr says he thinks spying occurred on 2016 Trump campaign

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And now comes payback for the Russian collusion hoax...enjoy!
     
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  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What comes around, goes around.

    The Democrats and likely the Obama administration saw this thing and picked it up and threw it at Trump.

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    A boomerang is a thrown tool, typically constructed as a flat airfoil, that is designed to spin about an axis perpendicular to the direction of its flight. A returning boomerang is designed to return to the thrower. It is well known as a weapon used by liberals for launching witch hunts.

    It all happened in Obama's watch.
    What did Obama know and when did he know it ?

    Holy crap !!!
     
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    Hardly, he maybe had a poor choice or words. He's simply saying that the surveillance was unjustified and possibly partisan.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, of course the illegal spying on Trump was all his fault.
     
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    But in your capillaries,
    You know he's better than Hilary is?
     
  6. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A 2 1/2 year special council witch hunt isn't necessary.

    Just some good old fashion police work would be sufficient to fill up a couple of cell blocks at the U.S. Federal- Penitentiary in Virginia.

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    Yes, rebels who are allied with Iran and if they won would allow them to control the Suez canal as well as the Straits of Hormuz, the west is right to back the opposing side
     
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    Don't you want to find the truth and save our democracy? Dont you care about democracy?
    Democracy!
    DEMOCRACY!!
    D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I'm anticipating total aortic failure of the American way of life
     
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    I care about democracy a hell of a lot more than Donald Trump does

    The man has no decency. he is trampling America all that the direction of Vladimir Putin

    Trump is a traitor. I don't want to live in an America like he is making . The plan for Tasmania is looking more and more appetizing

    You can't go to the movies anymore without worried about being shot to death
     
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    LOL, still with the collusion delusion? One would think that weaponizing the FBI and DOJ to spy on Americans running for President is a problem but evidently not.
     
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    Trump sucks Vladimir Putins dick. Vladi Dadi calls him his **** holster

    Russia better get out of Venezuela or else

    Or else what?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your sexual fantasies may interest you but normal people really don't care.
     
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    *LOL*

    You had to dig deep for that one.
     
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    Oh, gosh, NOOooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

    You'll learn the virtues of patience, or at least learn the lesson that patience often pays dividends.
     
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    I'm speaking figuratively

    Vladimir Putin couldn't have a better president of the United States .Trump seems to do everything that Russia wants us to do

    He certainly seems to be influenced by Vladimir Putin.

    Or his love fest with Kim jeong Hoon. Why do I have to live out that sexual fantasy of Donald Trump?

    I'm telling you the guy sucks at this job I don't know how many times I got to say it
     
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    There really were a lot of questions about how Trump was investigated at the start of his Administration. I remember how he was derided for denouncing his phone had been tapped, he lied, there’s no evidence. People conjuring secret agents sneaking into the phone room at the Trump Tower to splice into his phone lines. I doubt this is the way phones are tapped nowadays, they probably get some geek to fiddle with Verizon’s codes and transfer changes remotely. Why would Trump say he thought his phones were tapped? Probably because there had been instances where leaks showed the intelligence community knew about calls, if Trump agreed to meet someone somewhere and leaks showed the FBI was there too, or that they knew what was discussed. Apparently his calls were monitored via the Page FISA warrant, he’d be within “two hops”, I’m sure he must have called Page or viceversa, that would mean all of Trump’s calls could be tracked too. Will the “predicate” (the FISA warrant) withstand scrutiny? We know there are problems with the FISA warrant’s own predicate (the Steele dossier). Reasonable people differ on whether those problems enough to invalidate that warrant. Was there a reasonable good faith belief the FISA warrant was properly issued? That depends on how egregious the abuse of the FISA court was.

    The political bias against then-candidate Trump is clear, we do have evidence of this, does it rise to such a level it compromised the integrity of law-enforcement officials and prosecutors? I think it did, it is known several quite high ranking figures in the FBI, DoJ, CIA and DoS expressed strong opposition to Trump and promoted consideration of that dossier as evidence of Trump’s perfidy. Now we know that dossier’s provenance, the animus of its author, why it was commissioned, the uncorroborated quality of its contents, how it was surreptitiously disseminated and who participated. The dossier seems to support the notion people pursuing Trump actually believed he had been compromised by Russia, that’s what Strzok’s mistress said, she was genuinely concerned Trump would give Russia vital intelligence and endanger national security. This seems reasonable, if you believe the dossier is accurate, but what happens if you know it was just opposition research by a very biased Steele?
    I agree with Barr, this sort of thing shouldn’t be allowed, but it goes back to that belief the dossier was accurate. If they thought Trump really was colluding with Russia, spying on him would be a good idea, but how long into the effort would justify continuing this? Strzok, who expressed a strong anti-Trump bias, infamously determined there “was no big there there” and he would have a good idea of what evidence they’d found, and no inclination to let this pass. To continue using the intelligence community against Trump for purely political reasons, with no lawful basis is dangerous and wrong.
     
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    of course it did, the FBI is "spying" under Trump too, it's their job
     
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    Then you should definitely welcome an investigation. Save our democracy!
     
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    Barr believes whatever Dirty Donald tells him to believe.
     
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    How dare you question government officials.
    What are you, a Russian sympathizer?
     
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    Amy Klobuchar can do it!

    She can investigate anything in days
     
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    This thread is proof that there is a new epidemic..

    No collusion derangement syndrome

    When Obama proved his birthplace, most of us righties shut the heck up about it. Why can't you libs do the same with this? Grow up dudes, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. You know what's even sadder? You guus are actually mad that he didn't collude instead of being happy he didn't. .truly sad....grow up and MAN UP!
     
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    He has done more against Russia than Obama ever did.
     
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    Well, the Russian collusion kool aid never quenched the thirst or washed down the nothing burgers!
     

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