Barr says he thinks spying occurred on 2016 Trump campaign

Found a very interesting article, dealing with recently retired Bill Priestap’s closed door testimony to Congress. The article features a link to the transcript of Mr. Priestap’s testimony.

The article is quite lengthy, it appears Priestap was in London at the same time Halpern, Mifsud, Papadopoulos, and Downer (the Australian ‘diplomat’ who was allegedly told Russians had thousands of Hillary’s emails) were there. The article features an amusing exchange on the issue of "spying". A summary of the author’s conclusions:

 

Maybe they were "spying" on foreign agents.

Why was the Trump DoJ looking into this all along?

 

What has the Trump DoJ been doing for two years? Why is Trump talking about it now?

 

It has come out that Barr is saying that it was likely the FBI who was spying on Trump.

The American people made it very clear during the early 1970's that they don't want the FBI spying on American citizens like what took place during the J. Edgar Hoover's FBI.

 

I think we will soon find out what we all knew, just like the Russian collusion hoax. I'm just happy they are finally looking into it. This will not end well for the left but is going to be a good thing in the eyes of the American people, well people who appreciate the rule of law anyway. I will have more faith in gov, it was getting scary to feel like we were living in Russia.

 

Obama has already said he knew about it. He didn't level with the American people about contacts the Trump campaign had with the Russians. Why didn't he tell us? I think he thought Hillary was likely to win and he didn't want to chance derailing her expected victory. Of course, we don't know what else he knew about investigations into Hillary's campaign, her emails, or other matters we know nothing about even today.

 

He has been.

 

Who says whatever the FBI was doing is a parallel to the J. Edgar Hoover era?

 

Obama was Hillary's boss when she was the Secretary of State and lets hope Obama was competent enough to know what Hillary was doing like Hillary's private email server and the missing 33,000 emails.

 

It's starting to look like the FBI has returned to its old ways.

It was President Trump who fired James Comey, why wasn't it Obama ?

Probably because it was Obama who politicized the FBI leadership.

 

iirc I heard Barr say (paraphrased) that he wasn't sure if spying occurred, but there is enough there that the DOJ should take a good look at it.

Yup.

 

They have? Really? For two years and they know so little the AG testifies he has questions about whether the "spying" was justified or not. He has no inkling beyond having "questions?" Have they done that little to investigate? Does he know more and he's lying to us? My BS detector is flashing red.

 

Who said the FBI ever changed it ways?

Barr appears before Congress and testifies he has "questions" about whether or not "spying" on Russian agents and/or the Trump campaign was justified. Two years and the DoJ hasn't resolved this most basic question? What have they been doing?

Or have they already looked into the issue? If they have, why hasn't the DoJ said something?

Your narrative that Obama screwed things up and Trump fixed the problems has more holes in it than a sieve. Here's what Trump's stooge, Barr, an Elton John double, might have testified:

"I have serious concerns about the justification for surveillance that touched on the Trump campaign. In my view, it is unacceptable we haven't resolved this questions in two years."​

It's either legal or illegal surveillance. Only a dishonest stooge would call it "spying" and the suggest it may have been justified.

 

What have they been doing for two years? Barr testified he didn't know if the "spying" on the Russians and/or Trump campaign was justified? He's either lying, stupid, or giving the Trump DoJ a pass.

 

Why? If they don't get some government funding, the Orange Oaf wouldn't get any kind of hearing on NPR.

 

Only partisans would quibble over the use of synonyms. ha ha

I find him saying it may have been justified as honest. For it might have been justified, but then again, unless we have intentional amnesia, we would not forget what our intel an FBI are capable of doing. I still remember J. Edgar Hoover and how he abused his power to keep his position. And in more recent history I well remember how an intel head lied to congress. And how nothing happened when he did that and got caught. I also remember when the CIA spied upon its own oversight committee! Yes, spied. But you can use another word that means the same thing, if you desire. I won't call you a stooge for doing that.

So, to suggest the spying on the trump campaign may have been justified is just acknowledging common knowledge that our FBI and Intel does not always act, by the book, and abuse the power given to them.

Your brain must be programmed to erase anything agencies like our intel and FBI does that makes them look bad, that evidences that people high up in these agencies have been known, and caught, abusing their powerful positions. Otherwise you would never assume they are not capable of such behavior, and are very clean and scrubbed Boy Scouts. But that is being naive, and it looks to be cultivated in your case. ha ha.

You seem to trust anything and everything our intel tells us, whereas, from experience, and those agencies proving time and time again that they are professional liars, and will lie to the people, habitually, some of us do not trust anything and everything that they say.

No one that actually pays attention could ever trust what our intel feeds us. And after reading some of those emails or texts between the two lovers who hated trump and were higher up people at the FBI, who in their right mind would not see some red flags going up? That something did not look quite right with the FBI? Like some of those people were clearly politically affected, and when that happens, no one is exempt from scrutiny.

 

You really think they haven't looked into whether or not "spying" on the Russians and/or the Trump campaign was justified?

Barr, Elton John's twin, testifies he has "questions" and you believe him? Geez, you're gullible.

 

Yeah, that's a strawman

Obviously, if Jeff, He met with THE RUSSIANS!, Sessions had investigated, while Mueller's investigation was ongoing, there would have been holy hell raised.

 

We don't know because we're the mushrooms (fed sh't and kept in the dark).

 

Uh, he has not been AG for two years. Sessions obviously did not care to look. And if there was an abuse of power, and there are people left over from the obama admin, who abused their power, do you expect them to look? ha ha

No, it would take someone like Barr to be motivated enough to look into it. And it needs to be looked into, given the legit questions raised by groups like Judicial Watch. Sure, they are a partisan organization, but they cannot create their own evidence, but can discover what is there, in gov't documents.

What was the motivating factor that led the FBI to begin spying on people who worked in the trump campaign, that were suspected of being in a conspiracy with russia? And was it justified, or was it a weak excuse, driven by actors who didn't want trump to be president? And the fishing expedition began? Surely it would take something significant in order to spy on an american citizen, much less a citizen running for president, that no one in either party liked, or wanted as president.

And remember, our own CIA spied on their own oversight committee!! That should show you that anything is possible when it comes to these scumbags. It is stupid if barr does not dig deeply into it, and to me it looks like with just what we know, people already ejected from the FBI may have committed criminal acts by conspiring against trump, and to use their insurance policy! This isn't irrelevant and insignificant stuff here. It smells like a conspiracy.

 

If it wasn't flashing red during the collusion investigation, I would suggest your BS detector needs to be re-calibrated.

 

I agree. the mueller investigation needed to have come to an end, before the other investigation began. For just going my emails, from the two lovers, something was going on, and they even had an insurance policy. To use, against trump. Some people in the FBI, conspiring to go after trump! That just does not sound like what the FBI is supposed to do, and it cannot just be swept under the rug and not looked into. It reads like some fictional Clancy spy novel filled with dirty deeds done dirt cheap.

 

Why haven't the TV "talking heads" asked what the DoJ has been doing for two years, if we can believe Barr as far as we can throw him?

I don't believe Obama, Trump, Hillary, Comey, etc., etc., etc.

 

It's been flashing since Day One. Before Mueller.

There are so many Russians floating around on both sides...

 

You mean those illegal orders that he asked HHS to follow? And then when they refused to break the law, he fired them? Most likely in the hopes of finding an other arselicker who will do whatever Trump says, regardless of the legal ramifications.