Because some on the board still deny it..........

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do Obama's comments have to do with the finding of the intel community that Russia acted to help Drumpf win the election?
     
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    I made two statements. Perhaps you missed the part 2? Here it is again. Or did you fail to answer because you have selective outrage?

    2) Please direct me to your posts expressing your outrage at this interference by a foreign government.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I said, your attempt to change the subject is noted.

    First on CNN: Former DNC contractor denies working with Ukrainian officials on anti-Drumpf research

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/politics/dnc-contractor-ukraine-alexandra-chalupa-trump/index.html
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What makes you think I didn't read it? The article was published in 01/17. Chalupa's denial came in July/17.

    Washington (CNN)The former Democratic National Committee contractor at the center of allegations that Democrats worked with Ukrainian officials to dig up dirt on then-presidential candidate Donald Trump told CNN Friday that DNC officials never asked her to "go to the Ukrainian Embassy to collect information."

    Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American activist and Democratic consultant for over a decade, is the latest in a line of Democrats, including multiple DNC officials and former Clinton campaign officials, to deny the claim. It's a talking point the White House and other pro-Trump Republicans are using to deflect from Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer described to him in emails as a "Russian government lawyer."

    "During the 2016 US election, I was a part time consultant for the DNC running an ethnic engagement program," Chalupa said in a lengthy statement to CNN. "I was not an opposition researcher for the DNC, and the DNC never asked me to go to the Ukrainian Embassy to collect information."

    Your selective use of anti-Clinton material is duly noted.
     
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    The ONLY fact in this election is that Hilary was such a horrible candidate that a guy with no political experience, who spent a lot less money, and according to polls was destined to lose, and had the MSM against him, whooped her a$$.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not exactly a rebuttal of the thread. Imagine my surprise.
     
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    I know the dates. It just shows she changed her story after it made the Dims look bad. You are suggesting Politico made up her quotes? Link please..

    Everyone lies to CNN and they fall for it every time. S0 you are now on record as not caring that Ukraine interfered in our election. I understand. It was because they tried to hurt DJT.
     
  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I said previously, I'd be concerned if there was evidence the Clinton campaign solicited the help from Ukraine..........which they didn't. So sorry your story has fallen flat. Better luck next time.

    https://www.facebook.com/AlexandraChalupa/posts/10158241507540389
     
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    Yes. Do you know how polls work?
     
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    I wouldn't bet on them that's for sure.
     
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    Nonsensei436 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes of course you wouldn't.

    Unless one of them has results you like. Then you post it on a political forum.
     
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    Who me ? I not sure if i post polls .
     
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    The community did not assess it. Thus there is no proof anything helped trump. Also maybe you need to watch the video i supplied until you actually understand it. Good luck on that.
     
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    Not one of those polls you said were 'right' predicted Hillary would win the popular vote while losing the electoral college. Try again. That is just another sorry excuse for the failures of those huckster pollsters...
     
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    Hardly, and that's why you folks will continue to lose. Trump was elected on the issues; the economy, which he has delivered on. Immigration; which he has made great strides. Making America a global leader again; which he is doing with N. Korea, the defeat of ISIS, and getting out of anti-American agreements like Paris and the Iran deal. Liberals offered nothing but 'more of the same' in a female package, that is why you lost, that isn't what America wanted...
     
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    Yes they did, yes there's proof. You folks have a frightening habit of denying objective truth.

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
     
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    Which polls? I would want to see that myself.

    What spies? Your conspiracy theories are not founded in reality. Oddly one of the things the Russians supposedly did was agitate racial issues, tell me again which side goes out and riots about such things? It isn't conservatives...
     
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    Inaccurate polls and liberal Russia fantasies and conspiracies are not directly related, not sure why you feel the would be...
     
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    Oh .... Look over there , look over there !!!!

    The " deplorables " Got rid of Hillary .... Get over it .
     
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    Tell me again how your post in any way disputes the findings of the intel community?
     
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    You mean that same intel community that said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction ?
     
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    And they did so by getting "The Truth" out. This idea that Russian Trolls posting "The Truth" somehow constitutes propaganda is Orwellian doublespeak.

    Meddling with the election ? What a joke. This is like comparing a single snowflake to a blizzard.

    Our mainstream media is controlled by international financiers for God sakes. These people do not care about election meddling. If this was the case we would not live in a propaganda state - where the Truth, if it conflicts with the Establishment narrative, is suppressed.

    How does some organization - Russian or otherwise - putting "The Truth" out harm our electoral process as so many Establishment pundits were suggesting ?

    How does the US voter knowing the Truth prior to voting harm our electoral process ? I have posted this a gazillion times and have yet to have one on left manage a coherent - non fallacious - response. Normally they just run to the corner and hide (don't respond).

    This is your chance Lee !
     
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    What's the problem? The US does the same thing all over the world. In the US it is still the individual voter who is responsible for who they cast a vote for and why. Blaming the Russians just means liberals had no message and nothing to offer Americans that they wanted. Its pathetic and demeans the American voter as nothing but a rube who is too stupid to determine how they cast their vote. That liberals have such a view of Americans is no surprise...
     

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