Bernie Sanders, WOW!

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  1. Tram Law

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    I think that there is the possibility that Hillary is ye olde bait and switch thing.
     
  2. Brewskier

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    So his net worth is between 116,014 and 804,998, quite a range, wouldn't you say? With that much variation I have little faith in that estimate.

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    If you're not turned away from the "socialist" label that he proudly identifies with (but won't join the "socialist" party because that would be too honest), then chances are, you already agree with him.
     
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    Bernie has no chance due to his unfortunate decision to identify himself as a Socialist. It's not that Americans don't love Socialism. They do. You just have to call it something else, like Social Security.
     
  4. Herkdriver

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    His nomination would guarantee a Republican presidential victory in November 2016..which is precisely why the Democrats will tolerate him for the moment, but eventually circle the wagons around Hillary...a much more viable candidate.
     
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    Scroll down for the video...Sanders is no kook.

    Jon Stewart Dismantles The Idea That Bernie Sanders Is An Unelectable ‘Kook’ (Video)
    http://www.forwardprogressives.com/...a-that-bernie-sanders-is-an-unelectable-kook/
     
  6. Herkdriver

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    Growing already bloated entitlement programs for starters....

    Class warfare for starters.

    Openly hostile to business for starters.
     
  7. TCassa89

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    in case you didn't know, the socialist parties in Scandinavia are also pro immigration
     
  8. Brewskier

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    Who knows. Jews remain quite possibly the most left-wing group, however. Even today, they support socialism and other far-left ideologies more than any other cultural group. Perhaps it is because the founder of socialism was Jewish, as were the primary followers of socialism (Bolsheviks) and this has become part of their heritage.

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    Of course they are, which is why they will be in for a nasty surprise down the line. I didn't claim they were following any kind of rational sense. As it stands, they still have a lot more of a uniform racial and cultural society than we do, which allows them to continue engaging in their fantasy.
     
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    I like Sanders A LOT!!

    But I think he's in to expand the debate (as it should be).

    This round will probably go to Mrs. Clinton, in the Democratic camp. In a time where "money" is less of a factor, someone like Sanders probably would win. But we don't live in that time. Money dictates to much of the success of a candidate and Clinton is able to compete at the current levels. I doubt if Sanders can/will manage in that sense.
     
  10. Tram Law

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    What makes you think they are socialists? What programs and laws have they created, proposed, and have gotten passed that you think is a socialist ideal?

    You're forgetting the huge JEwish influence in Hollywood too when you say that, you know.

    And after doing a teensy tiny little bit of research, I found things like this:

    http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/the-20-most-influential-conservative-jews-in-politics/

    20) Jeff Jacoby: Columnist
    19) Jennifer Rubin: Columnist and blogger for the Washington Post
    18) Lucianne Goldberg: Lucianne.com
    17) Ben Shapiro: Columnist, radio host.
    16) Pamela Geller: Blogger, activist, Executive Director of Stop Islamization of America.
    15) Ari Fleischer: Former White House Press Secretary, CNN Contributor
    14) Ben Stein: American Spectator columnist, actor
    13) Ken Mehlman: Former Bush campaign manager, Former RNC Chairman
    12) Michael Medved: 3.75 million radio listeners, columnist
    11) John Podhoretz: Editor of Commentary, New York Post columnist
    10) David Horowitz: FrontPageMagzine, David Horowitz Freedom Center, & Students for Academic Freedom.
    9) Dennis Prager: 1.5 radio listeners, columnist
    8) Jonah Goldberg: Columnist
    7) Michael Savage: 9 million radio listeners
    6) William Kristol: Founder and Editor of the Weekly Standard
    5) Charles Krauthammer: Columnist, frequent TV appearances
    4) Eric Cantor: House Majority Leader
    3) Andrew Breitbart: Breitbart.com, Big Journalism, Big Hollywood, Big Peace.
    2) Mark Levin: 8.5 million radio listeners
    1) Matt Drudge: Founder of the Drudge Report

    These are all conservatives, so I think you've come to an erroneous conclusion.
     
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    come to the dark side


    ....we have cookies!
     
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    it's no fantasy that they already have a higher living standard and lower poverty rate than the US or the other European countries
     
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    Wealth redistribution...a hallmark of the Trotskyite.

    https://berniesanders.com/issues/income-and-wealth-inequality/

    Sanders wants a welfare state...

    Perhaps some of you like the idea of sitting around the kibbutz smoking your reefer sticks, waiting for President Bernie to give you your free stuff..while simultaneouly stealing it from the productive...thereby crippling incentive to actually move America forward.

    He envisions a classless America where the janitor makes the same as the neuro-surgeon. it's a joke.....America will go the way of Greece with Crazy Bernie at the helm.

    He's UNELECTABLE..to all but the welfare class who like the idea of free stuff and swallow the class warfare sentiment hook, line and sinker.
     
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    Having a racially homogenous white western culture will do that. It makes you wonder why progressives are so eager to destroy it wherever it exists.
     
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    You don't even know his policies, so why would I debate with you when you post as if a parrot is doing the typing.
     
  16. TCassa89

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    but again, the Scandinavian countries are also pro-immigration, the European union has open borders with one another, similar to how Reagan wanted open borders with Mexico

    Norway (although not in the European union) also has open borders. They beat us in education and healthcare, and they have the largest budget surplus in the world at 25% where as the US has a 17% deficit, and closed borders all around
     
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    Good point. We have seen what effect a business hostile President has had on the economy and it now appears that my assertion that the economy will never get better under Obama is well supported by facts. But Obama is only Socialism Lite. Bernie Sanders has actually said in front of witnesses that a 90% tax rate is acceptable. Throw in a 30% state and local tax and you will have America's exceptional people, inovators and risk takers heading overseas, much like they did in England in the 1950s. Who is going to work for nothing? Nobody is.
     
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    The only way to prove you are right is to help elect Bernie.
     
  19. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please explain.
    Any one of the three.
    Write a few words and explain with a minimum of "labels".

    I mean, C'mon
    Socialist can mean too many things.
    How about his reference to Northern European Labor Party, Socialist.
    But, Socialist alone is just a meaningless :rant: label.

    Is tuition free college too much entitlement?
    It use to be so in California. No more. Now Univ. of California costs.



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    Why would a Brooklyn Boy,a jew,need to seek little Vermont to make
    his Politics.
     
  21. Brewskier

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    Sounds like paradise, oh wait...

    http://sciencenordic.com/economic-security-young-nordic-adults-wanes

    And we can expect things to get worse in these countries as more and more non-white, non-Western immigrants show up to collect welfare benefits they didn't earn.

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    Liberalism sounds good until you analyze the facts.
     
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    Can you confirm that?
     
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    Sanders is amassing a larger base of supporters. He's exactly what I want in a candidate. At the very least, he'll push Hillary to the left, thus making Hillary more palatable.
     
  24. Brewskier

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    How long after Sanders is elected does the purge and reeducation centers start?

    It's too bad Obama wasn't more like the socialists he befriended throughout his life. I guess we need another socialist history lesson for humanity, again.
     
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