Bernie Sanders, WOW!

Sounds to me the greedy one is Bernie Sanders.Greedy for a Big Brother,
Nanny State.Which flies against everything this Country was built upon.
What The Founders intended and guaranteed.A Capitalistic Republic where
The Pioneer spirit and rugged individualism was free to operate and
make inroads for a better society.I don't want a Futuristic craven society were
blandness and fettered blindness are a way of life.That the notion of a
Good neighbor or Good Samaritan vanishes as Big Brother decides most
everything from within their Ivory Towers.Which is exactly what Obama
is granting us.Eventually that Grant will turn to decree and before long
even a decree won't be necessary.The will of We the People will
be dried up like old snot and not even worthy of being called boogers.

 

Listening to the Sanders interview with Couric,
available here, `https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-talks-to-katie-couric-bernie-120458581061.html
He does invoke Moderate Republican Eisenhower and the 90% bracket.
It was good enough for Ike. I do not remember if he advocated a full return to 90% or just 89%
for the uber rich. I do remember he advocates a return to some of those high brackets.
I have no problem with that when decades of RepubloCratic Tax Cuts is barely dinner and a movie for us
and what mega $ $ $ for RepubloCratic cronies - including the biggest war we must profiteers
Boeing and Lockheed.


I have no problem with a "Progressive tax code"
Today's is Regressive by the common definitions.
Sanders said he would use the revenue to put people back to work rebuilding America's rotting infrastructure.
Sounds like an FDR scheme. About time someone spoke for people.


Moi


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what are you talking about? no matter how you cut it their living conditions are better than ours. if we could trade places with them we would be better off.. and it's not just their living conditions, but their financial status, they have the greatest budget surplus on the planet... there's just no rational way to say the US's system is better than theirs

 

Bernie Sanders needs 1.21 gigawatts of power to become President. Perhaps he should get back to putting his flux capacitor in a Delorean.

 

Because all of those things that you say supports must infringe upon the rights of others in order to be achieved.

 

He's just recycling Hitler's meme about the Jews.

 

Ask him the same question you'd ask any socialist: how is he going to pay for all those utopian ideas?

You don't have to oppose him till he answers. (You're not going to like the answer).

 

But Brewskier, those big corporations are the ones who wanted to bring in the cheap foreign labor. Maybe let Sanders get elected, and it might teach them a lesson.

Just why do you think the Republicans were so inactive on the immigration issue? It's because they were being constantly lobbied, basically living in their own little bubble where they were constantly told the country "needed" more workers.

I do not know what the solution is now, they have created a disaster.

 

I like the answers I'm finding.


Sanders Statement on Budget Proposal for FY 2016

Monday, February 2, 2015

BURLINGTON, Vt., Feb. 2 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, today issued the following statement about President Obama’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2016:

“The president’s budget begins to move us in the right direction. By rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, we can create millions of good-paying jobs. By making community college free, we can finally provide affordable access to higher education for working-class families. By ending outrageous corporate loopholes, and by providing tax breaks to the middle class, we can begin the process of addressing the obscene levels of income and wealth inequality we are experiencing. Clearly, the president’s budget is just a start, but it is a good start. I look forward to working with my colleagues on the committee and in the Senate on a budget that helps the middle class, and not just the top 1 percent.”

The kind of loopholes he's talking about:

The tax loopholes targeted by Sanders' amendment let corporations and wealthy Americans shift jobs and profits overseas, often to offshore tax havens like the Cayman Islands. Nearly $100 billion is lost annually to offshore tax dodging, according to the U.S. Treasury.

 

Are you going to actually try to write an in depth argument or do you plan to keep shaking your fist and shouting "Liberals!" to the sky for the rest of your life?

You aren't saying anything of value. You aren't contributing to any conversation.

 

See the problem with that society is some people would be successful which is unfair on those who prefer drugs and playstations.

 

He has held elective office in Vermont for the last 34 years, Seems pretty committed to that state.

 

He has also proposed a financial transaction tax which would put a very small tax on all commodity trades, stock trades and bond trades. This would reduce the churn of the markets and market manipulation by hedge fund managers and the big banks. Many brokers routinely churn their clients investments in order to rake in the fees they can charge, without any regard to the effect that that churn has on the value of the client's investments.

He also believes that any company that is to big to fail because of the damage it would do the economy, is to big to be allowed to exist and should be broken up. He also believes that capital gains should be treated the same as all income. These are all positions I have agreed with for years.

 

Evidently you missed post # 46. You're free to offer up that much substantive information in response instead of just dismissing it.

 

It will also flush out the democrats who do not support the middle class, working people, and those who have voted for dems in the past who were in lock step with the repubs on destroying our republic and giving us this oligarchy, shown by the Princeton Study last year.

I have never given money to any presidential campaign until now. This is probably the last hope for the middle class, even if they are too delusional to recognize it.

A grassroots movement is needed, to take on the big money boys, who owns the democrats and republicans, and the only way to do that is to do it from within the democratic party, where a few people are left who want to represent working people.

 

The stimulus you mention was robbed via the Trickle Down Administration of it. Si?
Same with all RepubloCratic - Clinton - Bush - Obama recoveries. It never trickles down, does it.

 

Get an education please. Obviously you would not know a communist if he bit you in the arse. And that is the trouble with the miseducated right wing voter. They embarrass us, and the educated people in Europe laugh at americans, because of you guys.

Sanders is blowing it out in Iowa and Minnesota, as he fills up the halls with people having to stand outside. At one stop he expected 200 and had food to feed them, but 3700 showed up.

So now MSM are ignoring him, ridiculing him, but as his support keeps on growing, pulling out people who had given up on your normal repub, your normal dem, both who sold out the American people, the MSM will respond with his growing support by demonizing him.

There seems to be quite a few half miseducated people on this forum, and they all seem to be conservative, or rather, Neo Liberal. When you make an uneducated statement like you did, someone needs to go and jackslap the teacher who failed in teaching you the differences between a democratic socialist, a socialist, and a communist. We must have another FOX educated person here?

 

We disagree on the "Social Contract" between the Uber Rich and the Rest of Us in a nation.
1) Taxation is NOT an equal membership fee.
It should be equally painful to the payer.
2) America creates a society where one can become rich or maintain their wealth.
The wealthy should pay their fair, progressive, cost of maintaining society for all members.

By the logic above, all taxation is thievery. That should be a different thread.
The wealthy will still be, the wealthy. Just not as wealthy as these last decades have created.
Too Concentrated.



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Liar. Why do you not check before you post? his net worth is a bit over 330,000 and he is an old man.

http://freebeacon.com/blog/23-cruci...andidates-bernie-sanders-and-hillary-clinton/


That he is not a millionaire by now shows that he is one of the few honest men in DC. Clearly a middle class guy fighting for the middle class, working people, and not many white working people will vote for him, ,for they refuse to vote in their own self interests.

He's got my vote and my support, my money.

 

Perhaps socialism for the rich, but as the Princeton Study showed, with evidence, we are moving into an oligarchy, and that is fascist, not socialist.

 

That purge will come from the existing oligarchy now, which you vote in the men who gave it to us. Without a healthy middle class, which is what sanders wants back, the average American is toast. We have already allowed your people to hollow out America, so that any growth in GDP, 99 percent of that goes to the top one percent.

Your and other americans grandkids will be peasants under your oligarchy leaders.

 

What sanders is, is the only person who supports, and defends the middle class and working americans. He is what we had from FDR, through Ike, to JFK. That was when America created the largest most prosperous middle class in history, and we still have the rich, but they were less rich, for the income disparity was more fair.

Sanders is the only way that our middle class will stop being hollowed out by the neo feudalistic globalists. The difference between today and back in my youth, is that back then the working people vote for men who would represent them. Today, working people, too many, have become so stupid, as to not ever being able to discern what is in their best interests. It is not in your best interest to live under neo feudalism created by free trade, to enrich the top dogs. Americans just used to be smarter, but FOX does its best to keep americans dumbed down, by their propaganda, which we are so stupid as we cannot spot it anymore.

 

Sanders is too far left, but he's an honest man. That alone has my attention.