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    If the numbers are not fake then the study should be able to supply the names of the 3000 PRs
     
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    That's not the way it's done. If someone one dies because they can't get dialysis, the death certicate lists kidney failure, even if the reason is the power was out and there was no dialysis unit available.
     
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    And blamed on trump even if the lib academics do not know if there was equipment available or not
     
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    Actually, despite the inveterate bellywhinging and fake claims about the native Texan issued by right wing entertainers and parroted by their fans, his proposed policies are fairly mainstream.

    O’Rourke’s website affirms that he supports “achieving universal healthcare coverage” - a goal that aligns with Trump’s promise to enact a plan that covers “everybody!”

    He does not call for abolishing ICE but, like mosts centrists, proposes needed reforms and opposes transformational change. (Snatching children from families and incarcerating them in parts unknown is not part of his platform.)

    Like the overwhelming majority of Americans, he supports passing the DREAM Act to protect those who were brought here as children.

    Also, Beto is against building a foolish border wall that neither Mexicans nor Americans want to pay for. He is resistant to Trump’s federal bureaucrats seizing the private property of Texans to inflict such a boondoggle on the state.

    Like most Americans, O’Rourke also opposes politicians seizing control of wombs from the instant of conception, “ensuring that a woman’s right to choose is not compromised by limited access to safe and legal abortion services or family planning help,” and favors “policies that guarantee a woman’s access to birth control and emergency contraception.”

    Regarding the economy, O’Rourke shares Republicans’ interest in apprenticeship programs, and (echoing another Trump broken promise again) views much-needed infrastructure improvements as a stimulus for economic growth.

    Unlike more progressive politicians, Beto does not propose free public college tuition, but the expansion of Pell Grants and shares Republicans' promotion of trade schools, He wants to “allow Texans who commit to working in in-demand fields … the chance to graduate debt free.” Eminently mainstream stuff.

    O’Rourke is for legalizing marijuana as a path to decreased gang violence in line with the national trend.

    Meanwhile, the immigrant he is running against is only viable because he flaunts an "R" after his name.

    George W Bush, who has returned to the political scene to stump for beleaguered GOP candidates across the nation, cannot bring himself to make such an effort in his beloved Texas. He succinctly stating his attitude toward "Lyin' Ted" as Trump labeled his "Nasty guy!" who had served in Bush's administration, “I just don’t like the guy.”
     
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    It is not the role of the Federal Government to provide "universal healthcare coverage", and neither do they have the ability to do so. Not even the small state of Vermont could successfully implement "universal healthcare coverage".

    The nation's healthcare is far more complex than the pie-in-the-sky pipe-dreams of a pied-piper from Texas.

    Furthermore, the only one that should be seizing control of the womb is the baby inside the womb; not the grubby-hands of liberal abortionists and their amoral pied-piper from Texas.

    I can understand why the pied-piper O'Rourke is so keen on legalizing marijuana, since that seems to the main ingredient that controls his political thought processes. It sure as heck isn't common sense.
     
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    Despite so many proven paradigms provided by advanced nations of government-run universal coverage at about half what the US spends while leaving millions uncovered, neither O'Rourke's nor Trump's shared goal of universal coverage advocates federal control.

    Americans overwhelming oppose politicians seizing control of wombs from the instant of conception. A woman, privately, in consultation with trusted loved ones and any medical and spiritual advisers she trusts, is in a much better position to decide than your bureaucrats.

    Use of marijuana for medical purposes has already been legalized in 23 states, and ending prohibition and getting your federal bureaucrats out of everyone's business is just a matter of time. Four of five statewide marijuana legalization ballot initiatives were approved by voters in 2016. Oklahoma, Michigan, Vermont , Utah, and Missouri are among those likely to soon follow.
     
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    If the money comes from the federal government then feds will control the program

    And stupidity will be the norm
     
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    O'Rourke, like Trump, acknowledges the desideratum of “achieving universal healthcare coverage,” but has not expressed support for "Medicare for All."

    Of course, pragmatists recognize that all the advanced nations that have achieved their goal - at around half the US's cost - have done soon in a manner that is a taboo for ideologues.
     
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    I would not call the british health system very good

    But the same goes for medicaid and the va
     
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    Your ideological dogma eschews the pragmatic approach all advanced nations have taken, several superior to the UK, in my opinion.

    Meanwhile under Trump, expect the astronomical cost of US medical care to continue to soar, and more uninsured Americans be placed on the taxpayer's tab in the future.
     
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    Costs are high for several reasons

    Insurance should cover life and dearth illinesses only

    The minor aches and pains can be paid out of pocket

    and if so the high cost will begin to improve
     
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    You can contrive whatever pretexts your ideological dogma dictates, but the reality is that, although O'Rourke has not advocated that the US adopt the proven superior paradigm, all advanced nations are covering everybody at around half the cost.

    RomneyCare has produced the fewest number of uninsured in any state dumped on the taxpayer. Texas has the highest. That's the empirical reality.
     
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    You keep comparing America with smaller nations that hace socialized medecine

    But I prefer to see what government healthcare has been in this country already

    And its not pretty
     
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    I compare the astronomical cost of healthcare in the US to that of all other advanced nations, and note that it is about twice as costly and continuing to rise, and fails to cover millions whose inflated expenses are routinely dumped on the taxpayer. Ideological dogma aside, the empirical data is undeniable for those with a pragmatic perspective.

    Despite Trump's repeated campaign promises of a healthcare plan that is "something terrific!" and "covers everybody!" as "less cost!", his failure and that of the GOP-controlled congress leaves healthcare among the public’s top three concerns as the 2018 midterms approach, according to the latest Kaiser Health Tracking Poll.

    Again, O'Rourke has only expressed Trump's goals, and has never advocated a single-payer plan.
     
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    Nevermind the criminal charhes against him in the 1990s

    That's old news

    O’rourke is a typical America hating liberal in the mold of obama or the black NFL players taking a knee

    He does not even want to be in the same room with the American flag

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/09/08/vfw-commander-orourke-campaign-wanted-flags-taken/
     
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    He has lefties in Texas very excited

    They will vote as many times as it takes to win the election for him
     
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    Yes they will. Hopefully it will be Hillary, part 2.

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    I think mueller or one of the rogue FBI agent mueller colludes with are interfering with my account here on PF

    I want to reply to your last post but the software wont allow me

    Yes cheating is the primary democrat campaign tool
     
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