Biden says he would not use executive power to pardon Trump if elected president

This is simply upside logic. Mueller never said Trump did not commit any crimes. Mueller never said Trump did commit any crimes. If he didn't even look, as you assert, how could Mueller say either thing?

And by the way, prosecutors NEVER EVER declare anyone they are investigating as innocent. You are boldly waving that twig around like it is a trunk of an oak tree.

 

The phrase was "given his many crimes." Crimes means crimes, not something that some dingbats thinks might maybe crimes.

 

Ok then... Grand Theft Auto....

But really... OOJ...

 

Where was this attitude when Obama wasn't prosecuting illegal aliens? The hypocrisy of the left is unbelievable…

 

Is there some hidden ambiguity here? its the same attitude. Did Obama tell his AG by name which illegal aliens to prosecute, and which illegal aliens by name to give a pass to? You don't get involved in SPECIFIC CASES. Insofar as Donald Trump is a specific prospective target of the Justice Department, Biden should stay the hell out of it.

 

Biden and Obama have a lot more to worry about than Trump.

 

No hidden ambiguity. You folks are hypocrites. Obama can do exactly what you whine about Trump doing, and ignore it and try to rationalize it away. How pathetic...

 

Provide a link or citation to where Obama either told the justice dept to prosecute a specific case against a specific defendant, or drop a specific case against a specific defendant.

 

Yes, especially since Barr declared the DOJ will not be criminally pursuing either because "DOJ will not be used for political ends". etc.

If Kamala Harris is the new AG ( and Biden wins) Trump will have something to worry about. One thing is certain, Harris will NOT recognize a presidential pardon on himself.
Y'all better pray Trump wins.

I'll file yours in the wishful thinking file.

 

The Presidential pardon is a check and balance on that separation of powers.

 

If he is going to talk about pardoning someone and someone needing one don't you think he should exactly what for rather than trying to smear them as needing one?

 

Why would Trump have something to worry about other than Harris using and abusing the office in order to persecute him?

 

Question has an assumed premise.

Crime is crime, and no man or woman is above the law. As AG, she is obligated to pursue crime, wherever it is. I don't know if there is a statue of limitation on obstruction of justice, or money laundering, but if there is none or the limitation hasn't run out, there is plenty of evidence to conduct an investigation. Whether or not she would prosecute, is another story. That would not constitute an abuse of power, she would be doing her job. the issue of more importance is, that Biden, as president, had nothing to do with it, and whether she would be willing to deal with the politics of doing it. I hope she is strong enough to not let such a thing deter her.

You don't seem to mind that Trump wants Barr to pursue Trump's rivals and opponents. Right?

 

They both have passports and know people in countries with no extradition who would give them sanctuary. Why would anyone with 3 working synapsis in their head tell them you going to put them in jail? Senile Joe just won't make the grade, especially after his dismal performance on the economy with Obama.

 

You can ask 'Lock her up' Donald that question. Funny, though Hillary did not race to use her passport to disappear. I guess her 3 working synapsis told her that Donald was an incompetent blowhard lying to his base.

 

he will definitely issue pardons for him family

 

are you referring to individual one?

 

Agreed. I would be really surprised if he didn't.

I would also be really surprised if his supporters disagreed with him or criticised him in any way when he does so. It is already easy to see his narrative. He will say that there is a "deep state" out to get him, that his four years in office have not been enough to root it out and that as soon as he is gone they will target him unfairly with another "witch hunt" so in order to protect the integrity of the rule of law (and himself), he will be forced to issue himself a pardon.

And his supporters will lap it up.

 

yep, but it's not to be used to get your partners in crime off scott free

 

Yes I would.

 

Good for you. I am sure a lot (most?) of his supporters will stick with him when he does try to issue a pardon to himself. I have little doubt that he will do so - probably the day before he leaves office, if not the day he actually leaves office.

 

I am not one of his supporters. He won't do that. You underestimate him a lot.

 

He still thinks he is invulnerable to any major legal consequences to his behavior . Narcissist criminals always do until the cell doors lock. He's more likely to use his pardon power to pardon his daughter, son and son-in law, and any potential witnesses to their crimes, than his own.

 

In highly public investigations, in which they are thrust by circumstance, as much as by choice, they do, but they phrase it differently. It starts out with the phrase like - 'we have found no credible evidence to support an indictment...' and in two or three paragraphs in front of cameras they proceed to suck the air out of the balloon that publicity and media have been blowing up for the past couple of months.

That is not what Mueller did in his report at all. He did not suck any air out of potential indictments based on lack of evidence at all. That is exactly why all this speculation still exists about Manhatten DA's office.

 

You need to understand that political "crimes" aren't viewed as criminal in the U.S. I don't think this is good but it is reality. Investigating Trump was a political crime in itself. The republicans are trying to imprison those who did it but it won't go anywhere either. Politicians are above the law when it comes to political crimes.