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Biden says he would not use executive power to pardon Trump if elected president

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Patricio Da Silva, May 24, 2020.

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Lol. I can provide you with a list of politicians convicted and sentenced to 'political crimes' both federal and state of a similar sort, if you'd like, all across the country. The statutes are sitting on the books, just like they have been since the late sixties early seventies, with elements to be proven, and juries to be empaneled and sentencing guidelines all across the country. These statutes are a little more precise than the wording of high crimes and misdomeanors in the constitution.
     
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    btthegreat, May 25, 2020
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  2. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only half correct. Barr commented, not declared, that he "did not expect that the Durham investigation will pursue either Biden or Obama." He did not use the phrase that the DOJ will not be used for political ends in this context.

    Harris can also not recognize that the sun rises in the east for anybody cares..... as if she has any say in the matter.
     
    RodB, May 25, 2020
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Again????? Money laundering??? How did you come up with that inanity?
     
    RodB, May 25, 2020
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  4. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    I kind of agree with your point, but you did not refute my assertion that prosecutors NEVER EVER declare anyone they are investigating as innocent, in fact you confirmed it. You are absolutely correct that prosecutors often use a phrase like -- 'we have found no credible evidence to support an indictment...', but that is totally and purposefully not the same as declaring innocence.

    I agree that prosecutors try to suck the air out of the balloon but that is not what Mueller did. Mueller deliberately did not soften the impact by sucking the air out because his primary objective was to leave a trail of suspicion, innuendo, and implication that the House or others might follow.
     
    RodB, May 25, 2020
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Patricio Da Silva, May 25, 2020
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If Biden wins, whoever is appointed AG will not recognize a presidential self-pardon.

    Period. It's not about Harris, per se, I just used her as an example. Your point on 'sun rises' is rhetoric and not a merit worthy argument.
     
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  7. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Well we agree in part. He did not suck any air out, because he thought that air should damn well stay in the balloon. We disagree on why he thought that air should stay in the balloon . Mueller thought the investigation and evidentiary trail showed the balloon deserved every single oxygen and carbon dioxide particle inside it.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's it called when an opposition party invents political crimes to justify locking up their political opponents?

    Asking for a friend.
     
    Fangbeer, May 25, 2020
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  9. Professor Peabody

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    Yet.
     
    Professor Peabody, May 25, 2020
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    RodB, May 25, 2020
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    My point still stands: Very few care what the AG thinks, and Harris' recognition or not has no relevance or weight with anybody.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    My point, which stands, was to president pardoning himself. Not gonna fly.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, May 25, 2020
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yuo didn't read the entire buzzfeed article.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, May 25, 2020
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    Good luck with that.
     
    Professor Peabody, May 26, 2020
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    biden won't remember the time he serves in federal prison for spying on President Trump.
     
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    Biden has never once in his life kept his hands off anything..

    I call bullshit.
     
    HTownMarine, May 26, 2020
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    Yes, I'm sure that Biden won't Pardon Trump. For the simple fact that after he is elected (assuming that he is, there is no guarantee) he'll be replaced using the 25th Amendment.

    Biden is a place holder. Nothing more. His mental deterioration is quite evident to even many lefties. They just don't care because in their world its "get rid of Trump at all costs!" and has been from day one.
     
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    However, the real question is who is going to stop him, and how? You're implying Harris could go ahead and prosecute, but she would have to get SCOTUS to agree, which they won't..... depending on the scope of Trump's self pardon.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    What, did they have a little spin and bs down somewhere near a footnote?
     
    RodB, May 26, 2020
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    What's wrong with wanting to send Trump to jail?

    He's already got a lot of friends there.
     
    Arkanis, May 26, 2020
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    I truly hate to say this but IF Biden wins he won't last long enough to do much of anything. Concern yourself instead on what whoever is the VP will do.
     
    nra37922, May 26, 2020
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    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    What crime you going to send him there for?

    I guess you hope obama goes to jail, and Biden as well. Leaking data obtained from masking is highly illegal.
     
    TheGreatSatan, May 26, 2020
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  23. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Obstruction of justice.

    It could have been incompetence, but that's not a crime, even when you're President.
     
    Arkanis, May 26, 2020
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    When and where did that happen?

    Orange man bad... :roll:
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Maybe nothing as long as it is not wrong to be an inane insane person suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.
     
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