Biden to hold first press conference today since taking office.

You meant to say there is no such thing as the Obama economy.

 

I do not know if you played a role in this ugly business or not. But abortion is an ugly business devoted to terminating humans.

 

The Cartels of Mexico love Josef Biden. Great for their business.

 

Legal immigration definitely is not a problem.

Trump did not father legislation of any kind. Biden does not either.

Border crossers are illegal aliens and by law are not to be here.
Biden is violating this nations laws.

What makes you blame companies? The large firms are subject to draconian laws as it is. If you want to hire an illegal to roof your house, do you verify his citizenship? I doubt that. And this nations laws do not punish you for helping, but for aiding them to cross the border you will go to jail.

I grew up in Bracero CA and it was a legal way to get workers for our farmers.

We still allow legal Mexicans to come here to do legal jobs. They are registered workers.

 

Never

 

This heavily impacts those of us who have played a role in the deaths of our own human beings. If one can keep endorsing the deaths of humans, it will make me sick to hear of it.

 

Ok

 

150 million specifically want to come to the US and 640 million want to leave their countries and assumingly, would come to the US if the opportunity was available.

You say that Democrats don't support open borders ("Not one") but I've yet to meet a Democrat who doesn't support amnesty, which is de facto open borders or who supports deporting people who enter the country illegally, or enter legally and then didn't leave when their visas expire.

Not one.

 

Is decriminalizing our borders not open borders?

Most Democrats want this and what it means is you can hop our border and not get in trouble. That looks like open borders to me.

 

The fetus is not a baby (or a person) until it has been born. Period.

Roe v. Wade allows government to limit abortion of fetuses in the third trimester because the fetus could live if it is born. What the fetus is called makes no difference because the figurative "facts on the ground" are exactly the same.

The 1619 Project is looking to make this Nation ALL about slavery.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/14/national-parents-coalition-revisionist-history-in-public-schools-has-led-to-socialist-uprising-in-u-s/

It is all about the Marxist Propaganda that is the rage among most Democrats and is taught in Public Schools.[/QUOTE]
I taught high school history and this Breitbart stuff is sicko propaganda.

History teachers resist extremes the right and left want us to push on students. We flat out won't do it. You on the far right or others on the far left can have all the "projects" you want, but we control delivery of the curriculum.

 

Amnesty is not de facto "open borders." First of all, everyone here would not be entitled to stay. Amnesty also implies there is enforcement being avoided. There is no enforcement an open border.



We need to get control of illegal immigration, and we won't until we can stop employers from hiring people not entitled to work here. There are way to do just that, but someone in power will have to get it done. Obama didn't. Trump didn't, either. Biden? We don't know yet, but I'm prepared to give odds he's not better than Obama or Trump.

You guys are following the shiny object (the wall). Half if illegals overstayed a visa. Trump's wall doesn't snag them.

 

There's no such thing as a Trump or Obama economy. Or a Biden economy.

 

I specifically referred to people who entered the country legally, and stayed when their visas expired, so I'm not sure why you are bringing out a red herring of visa overstays. I know all about them.

But yes, amnesty IS de facto open borders. It's specifically for people who broke the law either coming here or staying here illegally. Basically anyone who feels like breaking US law can, under the proposed Amnesty bill get legalized to stay. The people who did things legally and are on a wait list? F 'em, Ilegals are the priority. So if all you have to do to get legalized under the amnesty bill is to have arrived before January of this year, how is that not open borders?

 

Note my underlined: it's not open borders NOW....nor was it then, in fact; it was and is an attempt to deal with the pressure of refugees fleeing imploding central American economies. Any interest in dealing with the source problem?

 

Legal immigration has its own issues.

We don't prosecute Presidents--remember?

I blame employers, only some of which are incorporated. That said, I'm sympathetic to employers who have a difficult time getting help, or have difficulty competing against businesses hiring illegals.

We can create a system where employers can verify employability with a cellphone.

It's a violation to knowingly employ people not entitled to work here.

Pay workers more.

I'm talking about illegals.

 

The "source problem" is that there are third world countries in walking distance to a first world country. There is no fix from the US to magically turn those countries into First world nations. So to me, "dealing with the source problem" is a stupid angle.

 

Not stupid, according to a commentator who was sympathetic to Biden's outrage against Trump's cruel policies.

Biden: "I will never stand by and watch children starving to death on the border".

The commentator mentioned the source problem underlying that wicked border situation; I take it you ARE content to watch children starve to death on the Mexican side of the border?

 

If we can't get people to stop hiring illegals, the problem will continue.

Open borders don't require amnesty.

Don't pass the legislation.

Asked and answered.

We attracted them by having [wink, wink] laws against them working here. I think simple decency says we should consider their situation beyond deporting more than 10m people.

 

No, people can still be deported.

You don't seem to appreciate what happens at the border.

 

Probably. They keep pushing the absurd claim Democrats want "open borders."

 

Why can't Mexico take care of those children? Maybe Mexico needs to do better securing its borders. Nobody wants them to starve but if we just let them in more will just keep coming.

 

Yeah but they can't legally get in trouble if it's not a crime to cross our border. This will just encourage millions more to come and the Democrats will use that as a excuse to open borders.

 

Democrats sure do encourage these immigrants to come. That's what most of these immigrants are saying. Biden will let us in.

Decriminalizing borders is still open borders to me.

 

GDP per capita (2019):

US: $65,300.

Mexico: $9860

Guatemala: $4600.

See the problem?

 

Without the Republican "war on drugs," cartels would be out of business.