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Bombshell: Nunes Says There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration

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  1. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet it happened.

    Cheers
     
    Labouroflove, Mar 22, 2017
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think there are. I also think the political climate of America is so fractured at this point...that it almost doesn't matter. Whatever is decided...one side is going to cry foul...and the other is going to gloat, "See, I told you so."
     
    Frank, Mar 22, 2017
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    While your baseless conspiracy theory is entertaining it's not supported by reality
     
    The Mello Guy, Mar 22, 2017
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  4. PARTIZAN1

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    You have no proof that Trump was right!

    What was Trump right about?
    What was he right about?
     
    PARTIZAN1, Mar 22, 2017
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, and James Comey, FBI top cop, just takes Bills word as a gentleman? Bill is famous for his truth tellin' ... :wink:
     
    PrincipleInvestment, Mar 22, 2017
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    Except it didn't, any trumpys caught in a wiretap were making their daily calls to their Russian bosses and were not the target
     
    The Mello Guy, Mar 22, 2017
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    It's supported by every fact in omission that we've gotten after the fact. Even mainstream reports suggest the leak came from 'inside' and only a handful of people have the proper authorization for that information. This 'conspiracy' is both simpler and fits all of the pieces. So I'm going to chase this real criminal behavior inside the US, rather than Russies some thousands of miles away.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Mar 22, 2017
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    The Mello Guy, Mar 22, 2017
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what come to mind for me right now.

     
    Frank, Mar 22, 2017
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    Nunes walked back his comment about Trump communications being captured tona possibly!

    Nunez may have committed a crime by making his statement.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Mar 22, 2017
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    You can't tell them anything. Even their friends can't tell them the truth and have it sink in.

    “FROM MSNBC POLITICS shows to town hall meetings across the country, the overarching issue for the Democratic Party’s base since Trump’s victory has been Russia, often suffocating attention for other issues. This fixation has persisted even though it has no chance to sink the Trump presidency unless it is proven that high levels of the Trump campaign actively colluded with the Kremlin to manipulate the outcome of the U.S. election — a claim for which absolutely no evidence has thus far been presented.” THE INTERCEPT, Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion, Glenn Greenwald, March 16 2017.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/03/16...-to-expect-evidence-of-trumprussia-collusion/
     
    Ddyad, Mar 22, 2017
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    Bill Clinton was caught ad bring Monica's Boyfriend as a coincidental research into Watergate ! No one was looking for the BJ story but it wad coincidentally exposed.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Mar 22, 2017
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    The Obama Administration was caught red handed carrying out surveillance activities and this could be another one.
     
    PinkFloyd, Mar 22, 2017
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    What? Clarification needed. Did you type that with your nose?

    You need to change your signature to:

    "TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP"- The sound of Obama tapping Trump Tower.
     
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    “Fourth and finally, I want to be clear; none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities, or of the Trump team." ~ Chairman Nunes



    Cheers
     
    Labouroflove, Mar 22, 2017
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    I'm incredibly saddened by our corruption in Washington DC. How could it come to this? With our own intelligence people lying to us, with colleagues smearing and lying about other colleagues. This whole thing is a mess.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Mar 22, 2017
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    Stop trying to confuse them! ;-)
     
    Ddyad, Mar 22, 2017
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    Trump probably isn't the target of any surveillance. But I do think that surveillance was used against Trump to release information that could have only been leaked from one of his phone calls to someone who was under surveillance.
     
    Sam Bellamy, Mar 22, 2017
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    Yes. It really is shocking to discover that spies and spy agencies tell lies. ;-)
     
    Ddyad, Mar 22, 2017
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    There is now.

    I suspect that Trump waited until the Senate Intelligence Committee was totally finished with their, "warrant inquiry," part of the investigation.

    Don't be surprised if we see some top Democrats being called in during the next few weeks of hearings. Some more 5th Amendment time in DC.
     
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    Did you forget to include that it was legal and he said it was legal and was related to a foreign investigation?
     
    PARTIZAN1, Mar 22, 2017
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    If that person was legally under surveillance the surveillance is not a problem but the exposure of unrelated communications may be albeit Con incidental.
     
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    Many Democrats, including spies and journalists should have lawyered up months ago.
    Maybe even a few Republicans. ;-)
     
    Ddyad, Mar 22, 2017
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    Typically of Trump, he jumped the gun when he first claimed Obama had wiretapped him. But now I see that Trump-haters are being forced to parse his exact words because the argument that he wasn't wiretapped is crumbling.

    So go ahead and argue the meaning of "wiretapped " and "incidental".

    Trump worded it badly. Okay.... But the facts are showing that his statement was based on the truth that there actually was surveillance.

    His statement was premature, worded badly, and clumsily accused Obama.

    But it appears that the surveillance did happen.
     
    Seth Bullock, Mar 22, 2017
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    wrong.

    Trump was not wiretapped.

    Russian agents in the USA were.

    and it appears Trump and his people, had frequent communications with these wiretapped Russian agents
     
    Ronstar, Mar 22, 2017
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