BREAKING: Biden Will Encourage People To Snitch On Others Who Violate Vax Mandate

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by XXJefferson#51, Nov 10, 2021.

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Would you inform the federal government if your employer or co workers violated Biden mandates?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

    75.0%
  3. Yes, especially if they are conservatives

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  1. Par10

    Par10 Well-Known Member

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    I left my foil hat at home but why can't someone believe in the vaccine and also believe that it's not anywhere near perfect? If you were in a house fire and there was only a 70% chance that the firemen could save you, would you tell them to go away because the fire is no threat to you?
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    They’ve always been required to enforce safety measures as deemed by the govt.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope...those vaccinated could give the unvaccinated Covid.
     
  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    If they get a job someplace with more than 100 employees they’ll be mandated too.
     
  5. Par10

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    Of course it's illegal for anyone to give them a job in the first place.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Well there’s no mandate for the unemployed
     
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    There is no way to measure who has avoided getting sick because of a vaccine because there are more factors that determine whether one will be infected than just vaccination status. Since those vaccinated won't generally get as sick, infection rates amongst the vaccinated are likely being under reported because folks may simply think they have a seasonal cold or allergy and not get tested. In my household, only my wife got tested because her symptoms were severe enough to warrant it. So the other 3 of us who were vaccinated and got it here aren't even being counted in those statistics. The same is going to be true across the board because not everyone who is vaccinated is going to get tested, especially when it's unnecessary as it was in our situation. Granted, I'd be willing to bet that the infection rate amongst the unvaccinated is also higher than has actually been measured.

    But either way, since the vaccine does not prevent spread, the mandates do more harm than good in the political climate we live in. Yes, they will ultimately lead to the people being vaccinated having a heightened protection level against more serious infections which is a good thing, but the downsides to the mandates cannot be ignored because their effects are real.
     
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    Because the vaccine isn't 100% foolproof, getting the vaccine and becoming infected, can infect an unvaccinated person OR vaccinated person. And, because the vaccine isn't 100% protection from Covid killing you, a vaccinated person can cause an unvaccinated person OR vaccinated person to die.
     
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    Sure, but I don't think he was arguing that an unvaccinated person couldn't get Covid.
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In this case, the overreach is far from reasonable given the extremely low risk. Also, forcing vaccination denies scientists the ability to study Covid resistant people and develop a better vaccine than the inferior product they are pushing currently.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So its okay to force people to consume a product that comes with a "take at your own risk" disclaimer, while denying choice to take ones own risk? That certainly speaks to the ineffectiveness of this inferior product.

    Sorry, but results simply do not justify this excessive abuse of power.
     
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    It's proven that the vaccine does prevent the spread 60% of the time. I will agree with you that the mandates do more harm than good. The quickest way to make your political adversary do exactly the opposite of what you want is to try and make them.
     
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    You mean a new vaccine thatll be too new to be trusted?
     
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    The choice of risk is still there, just get tested. Why are you pretending there’s not that option?
     
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    You can believe whatever you'd like, just don't enforce a mandate that flies in the face of science. It's easy enough to test a person who hasn't been jabbed for antibodies. The vaccines are no good if the spike proteins mutate, which they have.

    I am 70, so I happily took the chance on the 3 Pfizers. I would not have risked having a 5-11 year old child to get the jab. The statistics don't support it. I believe they go like this ,,, for every child the vaccine might save, it will kill 200 children
     
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    That is your choice to trust the rushed version or wait for one with more research behind it. Its your body!
     
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    Can I study for the test?
     
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    Bad dodge attempt noted
     
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    I don't support any mandates, especially for kids. I haven't seen that kids are at a high enough risk. For adults, if you want to get sick, go for it. It's not fun though.

    I don't know where you get the statistics about killing 200 kids. I would love to see it but I can't find anything where any kids have died from the shot.
     
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    Oh, you were serious? Testing is not always an option. Its vax or get the ax for many.
     
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    You didn't. No worries.
     
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    So both of you are pro choice on abortion. Who knew.
     
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    The driver is not that the vaccine is deadly, it's that kids are not at risk. So, there are 28 million children between 5 & 11. 94 children have died of COVID. We do know that these companies and gov't employees are making a killing. We have Pfizer calling for criminal prosecution for people who insult their gold mine. 2 people who worked in gov't during the development of vaccines are suing Moderna for part ownership of the patents. Fauci has thrown water on every therapeutic ---some used successfully elsewhere. Places like Israel where virtually everyone is vaccinated are not as positive about the vaccines/
     
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    Tx is not liberal. They are dictator.
    They are snitches.
    And murder isn't the topic of snitching.
    Catch up.
     
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    Nope....I'm saying...I agree with you..the results simply do not justify this excessive abuse of power.
    Some unvaccinated get Covid and have mild symptoms, are not hospitalized, and do not die...
    Some vaccinated get Covid and have severe symptoms, are hospitalized, and some die...
    Vaccinated and unvaccinated can spread the virus if infected.

    The scare tactic that if I don't get vaccinated I WILL get Covid, I'll infect everyone around me and I'll lay in the hospital costing millions until the day I die is crazy talk.

    Your comment that unvaccinated will give the vaccinated Covid at the office.... My point being the vaccinated can be infected and giving the unvaccinated the virus. Who plays the villian?

    Covid affects each individual differently... To diagnose any individual symptoms whether vaccinated or not is nuts.
     
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