BREAKING: Bill Barr to release report in 30 min.

With more to come.

 

And yet you said this....

"The Russians have been interfering with our political process by promoting fake news. That should be investigated and exposed. The Trump campaign had enough involvement with the Russians that an investigation was reasonable".

Can you see a possible contradiction?

 

I sincerely hope so.

 

Let's make it real, real, REAL SIMPLE:

If Trump had indeed "obstructed justice", he would have been INDICTED... right? And surely (SURELY) after taking nearly two years to dig through every tiny thread of evidence down to the level of exploring money-laundering crimes of a campaign manager in Ukraine (?) years ago, if Trump had "obstructed justice" it would have been detected!

It is yet unknown why the Mueller report chose to phrase this one sentence in such deliberately arcane way, but because this was an über-exhaustive investigation to find the existence of CRIMINALITY, the fact (finally!) that Mueller and his team of 15 lawyers did not bring forth ANY INDICTMENTS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP is conclusive.

But, you can bet that radical Democrats will hang onto it like rats who didn't have the good sense to get off a sinking ship when they had the chance.... But, let's wait for the full report to become public, as I have said from the beginning, although I greatly doubt that the wanna-be Trump assassins will like the full-strength version any better than the four-page synopsis we have already seen....

. "So, like, I mean, you know, what does "exonerate" mean anyway?"

 

The corruption in our system is at hear the laws that favor rich people and freebooting con artists like the Orange Oaf. You appear to have no real understanding of what's right and what's wrong with this country.



We're not in good company.

 

How has the Russia hoax benefited Trump?

 

Advice. If there is a case against those who created the Mueller inquiry, why hasn't action been taken during the past two years? Let's see the Mueller report, then we can make decisions about not only Trump but his accusers.

The same foul odor is coming off your side that's been coming off the howling mob on the other side for two years.

 

That shoe will drop when IG Horowitz' report is soon issued, IMHO it will be enough to start a Grand Jury into this corruption.

 

You keep coming back with the hoax BS.

There was enough contact with the Russians by the Trump campaign to raise legitimate questions about the involvement of his organization with the documented Russian effort to interfere in our election process. It's one thing for a foreign government to express an opinion and quite something else to create fake news.

Mueller should have been left to do his job without the Democratic yapping dogs after Trump and the disreputable attacks on our institutions by the Orange Oaf and his hounds.

 

What have they been doing for two years?

 

'Why'...well, let me try. The report has at least 4 areas that might or will preclude releasing ALL the report (as in every jot and tiddle).

1. Grand Jury Proceedings are prohibited from release by law.
2. Details about folk who were investigated but not indicted are protected by Dept of Justice policy
3. Classified material release is prohibited by a raft of laws
4. The President can use executive privilege to protect other info

I think there is zero chance of all those obstacles being removed so I do not believe 'all' the report will be released regardless of tantrums AND I believe the left knows this and feels safe in demanding the impossible to obfuscate the issue. They will pretend they expect to get it all but know they won't...ever.

The reality is a lot like the classic Monty Python 'Dead parrot' skit



No matter what the shop owner says, that parrot is dead and will not be revived. 'Obstruction' is dead...it is deceased. It is an issue in the past tense. People who pretend otherwise deserve pity and laughter but under no circumstance should they be taken seriously.

 

Comey's findings was probably the reason Clinton lost the election. What were you saying about a witch hunt?

Here are highlights of what Comey said:

1. “Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”
2. Clinton’s emails included seven message chains with information classified as top secret.
3. “None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system.”

 

Gathering evidence, the same as Mueller.

 

People like Trump because he gets under Democrats skin.

 

So the real trick here is pretty simple. Threaten a man with 8 counts that would cost him millions to defend and could send him to prison for decades. Embed within them counts that implicate your true “target”, then accept a plea, which includes pleading guilty to the counts that implicate said target. So doing effectively makes the target appear to be guilty without ever going to trial, which is the real point of the exercise. Then delay sentencing until we see how strong his testimony is against the target…There is something fundamentally wrong with this.- from powerline blog 25 Aug 18

 

We need to see the basis that the FBI used for alleging that they had verified corroborated trustworthy evidence that Carter Page was a traitor, knowingly working as an agent of a foreign government in a criminal conspiracy against the United States, because that is the threshold that has to be met in order for the United States Government to use our vast counter-intelligence tools to spy on a US citizen, and then through the 3-hop rule, everyone on a rival political campaign.


Yep. He knew what they were trying to do to him from the beginning.

 

A smear job. The Epoch Times is a journalistic joke and I see no evidence you could in any way address the substance of the report referenced by your cite:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download​

You're woefully short of having credibility.

 

Who made it suspicious to talk to Russians?

Wasn't it the hoaxters who decided that THE RUSSIANS! were pariahs?

Wasn't it the hoaxters who set the premise that Russians are evil, therefore any contact with them has evil intent?

Does it not strike you as odd that the people who falsly call Trump "isolationist", say that we must isolate ourselves from Russia?

The whole thing is a hoax.

 

I see. Mueller is thoroughly corrupt and we shouldn't rely on his conclusion Trump didn't collude with the Russians.

BTW, Trump fired Flynn for lying to Pence. You don't believe that either? Of course, maybe Pence lied to Trump and Pence should be dropped from the 2020 ticket. Sean Hannity for VP?

 

But none of those point are accurate except that according to Barr's summary the investigation could not conclusively find evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russia. But it could not exonerate Trump from criminal activity either. The key line:

"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

Mueller did not have mandate to investigate Trump's financial dealings with Russia previous to the campaign going back decades nor other activities such as Trump charities and business ventures since becoming president. He handed these investigations off to other authorities and they are ongoing. So Trump's legal problems are far from over.

There is plenty of evidence of obstruction just going on Trump's tweets alone. People who think that the report exonerates Trump completely are willfully blinding themselves to the reality of Trump's criminality.

I do agree that the Democratic Party's obsession with Russian collusion has compromised their credibility and made it appear to many Americans including Trump supporters of a "witch hunt" going forward which is a shame.

This has compromised any further house investigation into the real Trump criminality which may now be swept under the carpet and hidden from public view at least until this farce of a presidency reaches it's probably tragic conclusion.

 

He was fired, not imprisoned by Trump. I am waiting for a pardon for everyone swept up in the process 'crimes'.

 

You like Trump because he is a skin rash? Whatever.

 

Just because there's no evidence in the public domain doesn't mean there's none to be had. Mueller looked and has apparently given Trump a clean bill-of-health. Now, let's see the report.

Trump's attack on Mueller echoed by many of his supporters is disgusting as is the running commentary from the howling mob on the left.

 

There's no law against lying to the Vice President.

 

Who made it suspicious to talk to the Russians? Republicans in the 1960's.
Republicans in the 1960's put the fear of Russians on the map.
Talk to Republicans of the 1960's - the John Birchers and Un-American Activities commissions the Republicans set up.