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The same peoples evacuated from Israel were returned in 1948 by the same peoples who ejected them in 70AD, i.e.; the English leaders of the previous Roman Empire.

We realize that this is true because of the Genetic Tests that we used since 1980.
Those tests show that these same peoples are the ones who returned as promised by the Torah.

 

well, turning terrorists into political heroes is what all folks in the Middle East do.

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false.

75% of Ashkenazi and Sephrardic mitochondrial DNA, is European.

 

Funny too is that the attack on Israel in 1948 was instigated with the idea of taking Israeli's land from them and disqualifying a two state solution, which is STILL the position of the older people living there and the children they have raised and schooled.

 

The Israelis are quite bright and innovative. They should produce a sleeping gas, and have everything prepared to carry the Palestinians, their homes and belongings lock, stock and barrel out into land which was bought before hand. They should have foods stored and whatever else they need for survival until they remake their lives. Then when they wake up, they'll be confused at first, and then start thinking their previous life was nothing but a bad dream.

Now that would be funny!

 

Actually they were not allowed to return.. not even to harvest their olives.. They were shot if they tried.

 

If true, then how do you know that much of the European DNA did not come from the Hittites and later the Greeks before the expulsion?

 

Funny? Hitler wasn't funny when he tried to kill or expel all the Jews from Europe.

 

The Palestinian's have been dehumanized in the media and elsewhere to such an extent that they are too readily seen as nothing other than untermensch by the racists and bigots.

 

Its a real eye-opener to read the Nuremburg Laws passed between 1933 and 1939.. One realizes exactly just how the Nazis dehumanized the Jews.

 

Yes but Hitler didn't give them their homes, their goods and land to live on. The Jews were forced to leave penny less as have all the Christians throughout the Near and Middle East for the past centuries. I think it would be funny because they would be better off than they were before, only they wouldn't know what happened to them.

 

You have NO idea what you are talking about.... Ignorance of history is a serious handicap.

Neither Christians nor Jews had problems in the Arab world during the Ottoman Empire..

The problems arose with European Zionism and nationalist aspirations.... The blowback was a surge of Arab nationalism..

Read the Nuremburg Laws.. You'll get it.

 

They are not seen as untermensch, they assume others are seeing them as untermensch. Palestinians are criticized because they are misappropriating the hatred they should have towards their Arab brethren towards Israel.. As an example, the Europeans and the U.S. are willing to take in refugees even though it is to their disadvantage, and yet Arab nations like Saudi Arabia with all its wealth, prefers to see them suffer and die so they could retake Jerusalem and Israel for Islam.

If Israel wasn't under a threat in the Middle East, do you think the American people would be supporting some of Israel's actions? Believe me they wouldn't, and it would have saved us a lot of money to boot.

 

250,000 Palestinians .. both Christian and Muslim ... have lived and worked in Saudi Arabia since the early 1950s.. WTF are you talking about?

 

They have every justification in thinking that others see them as untermensch. You are presenting here a false equivalent in relation to Saudi Arabia. Yes, the Saudi's have treated, and continue to treat, them abysmally, but that doesn't excuse others for treating them abysmally too. The Saudi's have no political affinity towards the Palestinians and the only connection between them is in terms of the Arab component. Realpolitik always trumps any affiliation based on ethnicity, so why you are intent on drawing upon a false equivalent other than to score cheap points, isn't clear.

 

Hahaha.. the Saudis have supported the Palestinians since 1948.. even when KSA was still very poor..

Further, 250,000 Palestinians have lived and worked in KSA since the early 1950s... mostly in middle mgmt. and white collar jobs.

 

Margot, that's disingenuous as you well know.

 

The land was all Semite with various religions from Judaism to Idolism. Even the Arabs (those living in what is now Saudi Arabia were Semites who descended from Abraham through Ishmael born of Hagar. Islam did not come about until the early part of the 7th century so the "Arabs" did not have any claim on Palestine. The Israelites, commonly thought to be the Hebrews or Jews were in that part of the world since before Hagar had Ishmael and was banished to Arabia, which means they occupied what is now called Palestine for almost 4,000 years before "the Arabs." The Arabs do not have a historical presence in Palestine anywhere near the claim Judaism has. The Muslims conquered Palestine, but as most of those who think like you, conquering a country does not give the conqueror a valid claim on the land, any more than Israel has valid claim to the west bank or Gaza.

The Arabs got more than they historically had any right to get. The "crimes" of the west was the failure of the British Mandate to create a land for the Jews when they created the land for Islam in Jordan which with Saudi Arabia and Egypt were much more than they had any reason to expect.

Chalk that up to your buddy FDR and his ilk.

 

Not at all.. Check your facts.. I was there, dear.

 

The Arabs were in Palestine, Egypt, the Levant and Mesopotamia long before Islam.

Are you so misinformed that you think KSA was "given" their land?

Sinai was always Egyptian and ALL the Canaanite cities long before Judaism paid tribute to Egypt.

 

Principally, the Saudi's are politically speaking loyal to their political allies and these allies are pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian. So you are not making any sense.

 

You are confusing Arabs with Semites. All of the people living in Palestine and down into Saudi Arabia were Semites. The Jews came first then Islam came. Egypt's old religions were taken over by Islam.

I don't think anything of the kind. But we do know that Saudi Arabia only yielded to Islam in the 7th century.

True, I said nothing contrary to that. What I have said all leads down to one basic situation, the Islamist's claim to Palestine are Johnny come lately claims as it was Jewish before Islam came into existence.

 

No they aren't... where on earth did you get such a wild idea?

Who the H do you think is anti Palestinian?

Gad.. do you live in any of the GCC countries? Have you read the Saudi Peace Initiative of 2002?

They aren't willing to start WW3 and set the region back 400 years, but they have always supported the Palestinians. With the approval and support of the SAG we collected clothing for Palestinian children back in the 1950s.

Why do you think the SAG hosted Alfred Lillienthal???

Its really cliché to blame the Arab states and claim that they don't care about the Palestinians.

 

I know what I am talking about, I'm Greek (Roman) and I know the 'Rums' were kicked out of Alexandria and Cairo by Nassar, and out of Anatolia by the Sultan and then by Attaturk in the last century... and who knows how many were kicked out in the centuries before that. Your forget that all those lands were part of the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine), so what happened to the Christians...and don't tell me they converted because I know very well they didn't?

One half of my ancestry died fighting to free themselves from the Ottomans, and the other died in the first great massacre ever recorded. It was made famous in a painting by Delacroix and a novel by Dumas. As for humiliation, well how about not being allowed to ride on a horse because a Christian must always be lower than a Muslim, and how about having to give up one of your sons for the Sultan's Janissaries among other things.

But look these things wouldn't matter if I didn't see Islam trying once again to re-assert itself on the world.

 

Johnny come lately? LOLOL

Arabs .. even before Islam ... lived all over the Middle East.

There is much more to the history than Jewish history.

 

The Gulf petroleum stations (sorry Gulf dictatorship States) of the Arab Peninsula are complicit in the suffering of the Palestinian people. I'm afraid, you have too much of a rosey picture of Saudi Arabia and your living in a bubble existence in that dictatorship has led you to some distorted perspectives. This overly distoted perspective has always been your achilles heal, Margo.