Breaking: Trump Admits His Previous Tax Cuts Were For The Wealthy Few

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  1. Nightbreeeze

    Nightbreeeze New Member

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    Employment with wages that have remained completely stagnant and lose ground to cost of living increases every year - thank you. Tax cuts that will be offset a hundred times by loss of medical coverage - thank you. Save your arguments for the uneducated - those are the only ones who buy this crap.
     
  2. struth

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    . I agree they have been stagnant for your years, they our however now on the rise. You’re welcome What medical coverage have you lost? When?
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude.

    Per your own arguement, the tax cuts went mostly to the wealthy and corporations. We are experiencing historically low unemployment, higher per capita spending power and wages.... news flash, that's trickle down.
     
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    How does one cut taxes of the 44% of Americans that don't pay taxes at all?
     
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    Tax refundable credits AKA subsidy.
     
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    Actually tax reform did benefit the middle class in several ways. What was eliminated was the Personal Exemption claim. Tump might be considering bringing that exemption back.


    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968
     
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  7. struth

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    Can’t
     
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    I made a general statement. Of course not everybody is wealthy due to the exact same reasons. However, my statement is valid. The wealthy get that way through investing in some form or fashion. They do NOT stick their money in a savings account and let it sit.

    Your inability to respond at all other than deliberately taking my post out of context is enough for me. You can't defend what you said initially (because it isn't true) but thanks for the entertaining response.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What part would you have liked me to respond to?
    You made a strawman argument; called my position ignorant — without even attempting to disprove it.
    Followed by a definitive generalized statement — definitive positions are rarely true as there are almost always variables. Then proceeded to group me into a political stance without knowing any of my other positions. In summary, a strawman + a lie + a deflection will rarely lead to an informative discussion.

    I’m glad it is “enough for you”, feel free to not respond to me in the future — or do — I won’t know either way.

    And the panama papers disprove your entire premise.

    Cheers :beer:
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That was already happening. The majority of economists agree the tax cuts for the rich had zero impact on this. Wages — well they are not really doing what you say they are.
    upload_2018-10-27_17-41-17.jpeg

    For most U.S. workers, real wages have barely budged in decades

    upload_2018-10-27_17-42-49.png upload_2018-10-27_17-46-51.jpeg
    Can you point to were on the graph trickle down economics was implemented? It’s fairly obvious it’s working as intended.
     
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    I don't have to prove to you how the wealthy get that way. You made a claim and couldn't back it up. That's on you, not me.

    Your positions on issues are well known. This isn't your first post.

    To summarize: you made a statement that i think is absurd so i called you out on it and, yet again, you failed to even attempt to defend it.

    You made the claim and tried to put the burden of proof on me.

    You are right about one thing....an informative discussion won't be had between us. You're not informed.
     
  12. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like it or not, Obama participated in trickle down as well. When he passed the stimulus, most government shovel ready jobs were awarded to wealthy individuals and wealthy corporations. They in turn hired people. That is trickle down.

    Per the graphs you posted, unemployment is at historic lows... trickle down.

    Real wages are up (barely from time was removed because it's a subjective attempt to minimize)... that is trickle down.

    Of course in a growing economy the wealthy will get wealthier. Is the expectation the trickle down everything and break even?

    The problem here is that it's impossible for you to evaluate anything without comparing it to the wealthy. It's envy whether you want to admit it or not.

    It has very very little bearing what the 1% makes or has in terms of this discussion. The last graph means nothing except those that are filled with jealousy or desire a fair and equitable wealth distribution policy, which is not how this country works nor how I think it should.

    Do this... print those same graphs comparing the top 20% against the bottom 20%. You will see that your perspective is flawed.
     
  13. thinkitout

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    . . . .A carrot on a stick for gullible voters; how many times can Trump get away with crying wolf before people realize that he is teasing them just to make their mouths water?

    Trump preys on the avaricious appetites of those who are always wanting more without considering how much they have to lose.
     

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