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BREAKING: U.S. Appeals Court: Constitution Gives Right to Carry Gun In Public

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by rover77, Jul 24, 2018.

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  1. rahl

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    Because the federal government has chosen not to enforce federal law. It still applies in those states.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    Lol..........https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Clause
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    Longshot, Jul 26, 2018
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  4. rahl

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    Article 1 section 8

    You live in a state. You are subject to both federal and state law.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    And yet federal law remains in effect in every state, and federal law enforcement can enforce it in every state.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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  6. rahl

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    You are under federal and state jurisdiction. All laws apply to you. Sorry.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    There's no 'general welfare' clause in Article 1, section 8.
    But I am not subject to laws regulating commerce among the several states, since I'm not a state.
     
    Longshot, Jul 26, 2018
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    I'm not a state, so the commerce clause obviously can't apply to me.
     
    Longshot, Jul 26, 2018
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    Of course there is. You know that.

    Lol libertarians say some really batshit crazy things.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    You are under federal and state jurisdiction. All laws apply to you. Sorry.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    You can't prove your claim, sorry.
    Translation: "I have not argument"
     
    Longshot, Jul 26, 2018
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    Of course I am.

    However, congress has no enumerated power to regulate firearms.
     
    Longshot, Jul 26, 2018
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    Lol.....
    No translation necessary. Libertarians say really batshit crazy stuff.
     
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    General welfare and commerce clause. It’s why they regulate firearms.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    So the power to collect taxes somehow translates into the power to regulate firearms? How are taxes firearms?
     
    Longshot, Jul 26, 2018
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    So the sky appears blue during the day? What color is the sky on the moon?
     
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    There is no 'general welfare' clause. And the commerce clause applies to states: "among the several states".
     
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    37.
     
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    But you know there is.

    And applies to you, as you live in a state.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    XPRQ
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    No I don't. I haven't been shown any such 'general welfare' clause.
    Where does it say that?
     
    Longshot, Jul 26, 2018
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    You know you have.

    The constitution.
     
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    Translation: "I have no valid argument."
    Translation: "I have no valid argument."

    Congress has no legislative authority to restrict gun ownership.
     
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    Not sure why you have such trouble understanding plain English. My lost was perfectly clear.



    General welfare and commerce clause. It’s why firearms are regulated by the federal government.
     
    rahl, Jul 26, 2018
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    Unless the feds don’t enforce them.
     
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