Bush was the worst president in modern history.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    thats impossible, since the USA has no free-trade agreement with China.
     
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    No we weren't. The recession began in March 2001.
     
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    Well in fact you are "outright deceptive." My comment didn't say that you were being "outright deceptive" for noting that the WH killed the bill. Although on that subject, you never presented any proof that the WH actually did kill the bill. The bill was in committee and never made it out but that doesn't have anything to do with Bush killing the bill (an impossibility). So deceptive once more.
     
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    China is alllwed to import almost anything to the US without tariffs

    But much less is exported from the US to china
     
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    Cheap labor to make cheap stuff in their sweatshops. Great for American consumers. And that is Clinton, Bush, and Obama's fault how?
     
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    we have no free trade agreement with China
     
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    You exaggerate about the economy.

    But Bush was a disaster anyway.

    LOL, not a chance, the economy languished along until Trump.

    Why? Because the Obama cartel ruined the economy by artificially holding interest rates low and understating inflation, forcing people to move from interest bearing investments (bonds) to stocks.

    Look at the financials of blue chip companies, for the past 8 years their stock price has gone through the roof but that is not founded in higher sales or profit or market share or revenue. The high stock prices are due to artificially induced demand for stocks - not because the companies are doing so well.

    Its a huge bubble.

    That's what people say when they want to try to put lipstick on a pig. Under Obama the debt went from $10T to $20T, he grossly overspent, worse than Bush.

    No, there were 11.3 million jobs added - but mostly low paying service jobs. And then there is the fact that 1 in 6 of American males aged 25-54 dropped out of the workforce, couldn't find a job and gave up.

    So once again, you tried to put lipstick and a pig, but its still a pig.

    That's BS again, how desperate are you? Killing bin laden was the result of many people working under both Bush and Obama. All Obama can do is claim he just happened to be in office when the decision was made to actually do the mission.

    For obama (or you) to claim he "got bin laden" is a slap in the face to the 1,000's of people who sacrificed to get him. Shame on you.


    LOL, what a total joke. We are still in Iraq. Wake up. And your buddy obuma turned the entire region into a disaster with his idiotic "red lines" and his "arab spring".

    So you utterly FAIL in trying to play obuma as some sort of success.
     
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    You need a place to sell their cheap goods and clinton opened the door for them tosell it in America

    Bush came along and he was distracted by the war on terror and didnt care about china

    Obama I think actually wanted to move American manufacturing overseas

    Anyway only trump has attempted to fix what the ladt three presidents broke
     
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    China is allowed to import almost everything they produce to the US duty free
     
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    Because now we have Trump, who is dismantling the foundations of America. At least Shrub didn't use nukes. I bet Trump tries to....and if he does, this country will end with the rest of the world. The few survivors will breed mutants living in the stone age for a thousand years, unless the nukes sterilize the survivors. "Trump making the world glow"
     
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    Yep. Those solar panels I'm going to buy are going to cost me 30% more. That's fixing it.
     
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    Onus is entirely on YOU to PROVE that I made that claim.

    The economic boom occurred AFTER the two largest tax INCREASES in the history of the nation per my recollection but I am not stipulating that there is any correlation.

    It is only the disingenuous alt right who fallaciously allege that "tax cuts create jobs" who have to prove that there is any correlation. There is no evidence to support that bogus allegation.
     
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    Alt right DISINFORMATION without any factual basis whatsoever.
     
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    Go on believing Mother Jones.
     
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    Things would improve if no one was gullible enough to swallow Alt right DISINFORMATION without question.
     
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    Its your roof not mine

    So you should pay full price instead of getting a tax break on my back

    But now you can insist on better quality US products for the same price
     
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    Well you might want to go back to the "Fair Housing act" under Johnson and work slowly thru history and then reevaluate what Bush ultimately inherited!
     
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    Actually, Clinton setup the groundwork for the financial crash. Bush just continued those policies.
     
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    That's true, but give Johnson his dues too, he was the Dummy that set the whole thing in to motion!
     
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    Didn't you use the Clinton era as an example of raising taxes leading to an economic boom?
     
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    Nowhere did I stipulate any cause and effect. I was just pointing out the ORDER in which they occurred because someone had alleged that the economy was already booming prior to Clinton's tax increase which was wrong.

    YOUR FALLACY is not my problem.
     
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    Well then as long as you don't credit Clinton's tax increase with the economy while he was president we have no disagreement.
     
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    Actually he "Bush" and many economist warned congress and senate on several occasion that if it were not address that what happened was definitely going to happen and it did! Bush did all he could to get the FrankenDUDs to regulate it but the Dems media blitz him as a fear monger and how he was going to stop "Every American" from owning the "American Dream" a home, they couldn't afford :)

    Blame the Dem that started it LBJ and the Dems under Bush for tanking the U.S. despite the warning they received by Bush and independent economists!
     
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    That sounds reasonable given that there is no empirical evidence demonstrating that tax cuts/increases have any impact on the economy whatsoever.
     
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    Obviously you haven't been paying attention
     

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