CA Banning School Suspensions for ‘Willful Defiance’

Spoken like a true liberal.

 

A total drag...

 

There's nothing like telling kids their unacceptable behavior will be tolerated. Luckily that won't carry over to their working lives....cough cough

 

You're welcome to air drop into Afghanistan with your healing crystals and work it out for us.

 

I am sure they have plenty of their own..

 

So you're not interested in enacting world peace, you'd just like to hide behind the people you complain about.

Sounds about right.

 

They teach people to kill if you don't like that fact you can just live with it..

 

Of course they teach people to kill.

Some people have to be killed if you don't want to be.

You're welcome to put your boot bands on and show us how it's done though.

 

They don't call them trouser blousers anymore

 

No, I just have to look a the House of Representatives and see the lack of work they do to know.

Every once in a while, one screws up and is productive.

 

More dependent voters.

 

That's funny!

 

This is not a new issue. It has been the practice in some California school districts for years. They finally adopted it state-wide.

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https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...lt-school-suspensions-for-willful-6262461.php

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https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion...o-school-suspensions-show-promise-8347210.php

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July 7, 2013
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion...suspensions-is-right-with-support-4651527.php

 

It’s probably because they can’t keep any kids in the classrooms anymore because they’re all animals.

 

As much as we joke about it, it IS their goal.

Let's be honest .. no one over the emotional age of 9 wouldn't see such a move resulting in dependence. Ergo, it must deliberate.

 

They can, but they won't. Important difference.

 

I agree. But the bill doesn't stop that

 

I’m not claiming it doesnt hurt the good kids. It’s a law that says that you cant kick a kid out of school for not conforming to convention.

I’m not saying its a good law or a bad law. We will have to see it in practice. But their will be cases where it is applied properly, and cases where it will be invoked for totally bullshit reasoning.

 

Suspension is a reward, not discipline. The only person who doesn't care is typically the kid. It's a great way to get out of school entirely.

 

The bill prevents any discipline that tries to control these miscreants from doing anything that they wish in the class.

 

Who said anything about only using suspension? There are a variety of other methods to instill standards into these little pieces of failure.

Assign them mandatory maintenance tasks, renovate the destruction that their actions have caused, detention has always been a punishment to these kids.

The state has to be creative, not ignore and encourage the problem.

 

BTW, judging from the news reports there is no need to teach "people to kill". Seems to be self taught by those who have no moral sense of themselves or nothing to fall back on in the education that they received.

 

Nobody is talking about kicking "a kid out of school for not conforming to convention." Willful defiance in this case is more likely to be a teacher asking a kid to be quiet while he/she is talking, and the student just saying "no, I won't be quiet." or a teacher telling a kid to sit down and being told, no, I'll do what I want. This is not cases of bucking convention, but refusal to obey basic rules of civility. You must really dislike teachers, and want them to fail.

 

Suspension gives the teacher (and class) a break from the miscreant student. It does nothing to really change things for the bad student, but it's a necessary break for the teacher and the good kids. Personally, I think In School Suspension is a better punishment. It's basically the equivalent of "solitary confinement." I also think any out of school suspension should require the parent to bring the student home from school personally before the suspension, followed by the parent bringing the student back to school after the suspension. If the parent doesn't pick up the kid at the point of suspension, CFS should be called. The student shouldn't be readmitted to school without the parent present. I worked at a school that had "overnight" suspension, which was just that. The parent had to pick the kid up, and then sign them into the counselor's office (and get parental counseling of some sort) to get them back in school.

 

no it doesn't

I just says they cant expel them