California Governor Gavin Newsom Imposes Country’s First K-12 Vaccine Mandate

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  1. omni

    omni Well-Known Member

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    And children don't have to get the vaccine either. If parents feel so strongly about, they can remove their kids from public school.

    As for having actual data, anti-vaccers have been complaining about childhood vaccines despite 30 years of data.

    Data is not the heart of the issue here.
     
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  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I worked many years back at the Fremont, CA General motors plant, the day I told others not to buy were cars made on Monday or Tuesday. Because when the blacks at the plants got their Friday pay checks, they took four days to blow the money and had the desire to get more money.

    Short handed was the days the plant could make errors when the cars were made. GM actually busted their asses to make good cars. But if men will not show up to work, it hurts a lot.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you feel by being shoved around by Government?
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and Rosa Parks didn't have to ride the bus she could have walked
     
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    You tossed something out there without context. I straightened you out.

    This is a brand new vaccine. Regardless of how you want to spin it. As such some people would prefer to wait and see instead of diving right in like a good little mindless democrat.

    And this is coming from a guy who's double vacc'd. I made a choice that's right for me. But I get why some people are hesitant. I've just pointed out to you why that is.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did not name the vaccines so I have.

    Effective July 1, 2019:

    Immunizations required to enter 7th grade:
    • Tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis booster (Tdap)
    • Varicella (Chickenpox)

    Immunizations required to enter Kindergarten:
    • Polio
    • Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
    • Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR)
    • Hepatitis B
    • Varicella (Chickenpox)
     
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    Is Biden wetting his pants? Depends.
     
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    mswan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, we live in a free country, people get to make their own decisions. Imagine that!
     
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    I really don't want to wade through 3 pages of typical RW nonsense, but I will assume somebody has pointed out to you that kids already have to receive vaccines to go to public school??

    EDIT - I only had to scroll up a few posts to find my man @9royhobbs already did... I assume that between him and me, that will end this ridiculous thread??
     
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    It's funny that you mentioned smoking on planes. If everyone is wearing a mask then smoking is safe for the non smokers if they're wearing one, or so goes the theory.

    What are the long term effects of the vaccine, can you tell me with absolute certainty? And I have chest pains after the jabs, what's going to happen to the kid's hearts 20 years from now?

    I remember how the left cried about Trump taking away their freedoms even though when asked they couldn't name any. But here is Newsom and Biden taking away freedoms and the left loves it. The way the left can be led by the nose is astonishing.
     
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    Happy my kids will be going to school with vaccinated kids. Wish my work would implement mandates and put our coffee pot back
     
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    Fine with me. Cali deserves it tbh.
     
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    Like this.

     
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    "we follow the science"

    Bullshit he does.

    Took me all of 30 seconds to find the gd study.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

    "Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected."

    Fack. Nevermind. This is a *******n pre print. You can't use pre prints. It's worthless until peer reviewed.
     
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    This whole thing is playing out like the opening chapter to an apocalyptic dystopian novel. I shutter to think what they have in store for us.
     
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    Public health emergency vs. Discrimination. Pretty different issues here.
     
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    We have had VACCINE MANDATES for DECADES for Mumps,Measels and Rubella and some other diseases. Children cannot attend school unless they show proof of being vaccinated
     
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    discrimination is discrimination no matter the subject matter being race religion sex vaccinated unvaccinated
    and the excuse of being for public health has been used by tyrants through out history
    Hitler did so with the Jews claiming they carried diseases as an excuse to ship them off to concentration camps
     
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    So are you of the opinion that Americans do not have a choice regarding the Rona vaccine?
     
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    There are no long term effects of these vaccines. We already know the effect of Covid19. So far killing more Americans than the Spanish Flu.

    Nobody's freedoms are being stripped by anyone. If an antivaxxist chooses to not take the vaccine, that is entirely their decision.
     
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    Anti-vaccine advocates are making a clear choice to take the vaccine or not. The fact that those actions have consequences is not discrimination.

    Was Hitler's accusations supported by science?
     
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    I swear you people
    1) do not read what i write
    2) do not comprehend it
    3) Have a prethought out response before replying...
     
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    Probably going to round up all T**** voters and put them in camps to teach them the difference between shutter and shudder..

    You'll love it if/when released...
     
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    An immoral choice "supported by science" doesn't make it any less moral. And that here is the issue. Democratic societies are built off of willful participation. If said society must force and compel others, not to obey the law but rather to buy a product(be it the ACA or the new vaccines), then the democrats have given up the bane of democratic existence. '

    One cannot call oneself a democrat and believe in mandates, it's simply not logically possible.
     
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    Exceptions can always be made in emergencies and/or public health matters..

    Nothing remotely contradictory in that..
     

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