California Governor Gavin Newsom Imposes Country’s First K-12 Vaccine Mandate

No idea, cause I got mine when it was voluntary..

Ask a deplorable..

 

We are discussing Covid vaccines. This is a rushed product with no known long term effects that comes with a "take at your own risk" disclaimer.

 

I have to agree here, most definitely, we are currently uninformed as to the long term effects of the current COVID vaccines (if any). We are now beginning to hear more about "long term COVID" illness effects and symptoms.

 

True and we know that healthy people carry no significant risk. Personally, I have many years of research on how to keep a strong immune system. I will not be consuming this particular product.

 

The parents can decide - like they have with other vaccines. If they are against them, they are free to home school.

 

Things are back to normal... It is a shame the blue states don't know.

 

Glad to see you're still as anti science as ever.

covid vaccine mandate for kids is absolutely anti science. There's not a shred of evidence suggesting they need this.

 

It's a cleansing of the subversives. There is no need to vaccinate children.

The vaccines do not stop the spread or offer any chance of Herd Immunity. Here is my proof.

https://www.ft.com/content/3084c2b2-7e40-4273-9f0c-56dc25ea7196
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-year-mba-students-online-amid-virus-outbreak

What happened above at Harvard with over 90% vaccinated tell us all we need to know about Herd Immunity and the vaccines. Also, Israel had the same issue, on a larger scale and they are heavily vaccinated.

The vaccines are good for the elderly and "at risk". They may reduce the impact and save lives. But, we don't get herd immunity until enough of us catch it and have the natural antibodies, T Cells, and B Cells.

 

Are you really in the dark as to why someone would be ok with having a vaccine for, say, measles mandated for kids but not ok with having a covid vaccine requirement for kids?

Do you need to see the data? Are you unaware of how insignificant covid is for kids? Are you also aware that the flu is far more dangerous to kids? Have you been pushing flu vaccine requirements in children for years because if you believe they should be mandated for covid you absolutely have to believe they should be mandated for the flu.

 

Funny you say that in a thread putting on display Gavin Newsom denying science.

Hint: there's zero science behind a vaccine mandate for kids.

 

There is no choice to home school for 99.999% of the population.

Do you trust science because if you do you’d already be aware that Covid is insignificant when it comes to making children seriously ill. The flu we’ve been living with forever is equally dangerous.

A vaccinated person has nothing to fear from the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are the ones under any real risk and that risk is heavily influenced by age and pre conditions like obesity or heart/lung issues.

Saying the choice is a vaccine or home school is no choice at all. Most people work and can’t home school so you’re speaking from ignorance.

 

No, I'm not speaking from ignorance. I'm just saying that this isn't a mandate - it isn't saying that ALL children MUST be vaccinated.

But since you're concerned about working parents, are you also in support of the bill that will allow childcare so more parents can work?

 

That is a mandate. Forcing people to vaccinate or be fired or not be able to enter a business or travel, ect is fascism.

Nice try. NO FREEBIES. Can’t afford children, be responsible and don’t have them. Somehow generations of people raised children without the govt paying you to take care of them.

When our children were babies, my wife stayed home because she wanted to. We had a plan and prepared accordingly.

 

Will you also refuse to consume whatever medical treatment the Hospital gives you in order to try to save your life if you get Covid and have to be in the ICU?

I of course hope that nothing awful like that happens to you, this is just a general question.

 

No, no they are not and I'm in one of the reddest states.

 

What happened to cons wanting to protect all Children? Or is that just the unborn zygotes y'all seem to care about? Once they are born, who cares about em seems to be the conservative mantra when it comes to Children.

 

Are you saying kids can't get covid and will not have any long lasting effects from it? Get the shot.

 

No, just for kids that go to K-12 school... so yeah, it's essentially a mandate.

I'm not sure what you are getting at there.... or why you'd have a problem with that concept??

 

In my mind, a mandate is an order that they MUST all be vaccinated. But I do believe there is still a choice for the parents if they are dead set against it. Just as they are with other vaccines.

I have no problem at all with it - its a public health issue in my mind.

 

Well, there are mandates and mandates... For instance, I don't think Biden's federal and large company deal is a true mandate, since there are a fair amount of outs there.... It's in the ballpark, but it's not.

There are really few options to avoid going to elementary school (Louis Gohmert notwithstanding). There's a choice there, but it's not much of one.

I have no problem embracing the term mandate... it's the only way you'll get some of the dingbats to get it done... especially in a school setting, with many other current vaccine mandates...

 

You need to get out more.

Edit: I can do anything I could do pre-pandemic in my state, no mask, no gestapo vaccine checks. Hospitals are not "over run" and numbers are coming down steadily. Normal is back and the overwhelming majority are embracing it.

 

Regardless of what the media and radical left are telling us...

 

You can be against it all that you want. Clearly the Democrat voters in CA believe that the govt, and not the parents should make decisions about the health care of children.

Democrat votes have consequences; liberty dies as a result

 

So can I but that doesn't speak for the whole country and the world.

Look how cute you are......answering your own posts. Bet you're the guy at work that would get on the intercom and say there's a phone call for you just to look important.

 

No reason to be dick tough guy