California Sheriff Defies State Sanctuary Law

LOL that is why CA pasted a law making it illegal for landlords to report illegals to ICE

 

All states are the governments place of business. It is the federal governments job to protect the citizens of our nation as it is written in the Constitution. I'm not sure what you mean? Can you explain what laws or where in the Constitution it says they don't have the right to protect us from foreign invaders? California has a border on the ocean, which is also the nation's border. It has a border with Mexico, too. Those are international borders, and must be protected. Doesn't matter if you are carrying a howitzer or a bottle of water across. If you can site law that says otherwise, I'll gladly consider your opinions. Otherwise, I think you are sadly mistaken.

 

In California, they realized businesses have been trying to follow the law, so they made it illegal for a business to try and insure the people they hire are legally allowed to work.

As a business owner it was difficult to know who had stolen identities. Fake ID's, fake papers are the norm for the illegal community. Kevin de Leon, President Pro Tem of the California Senate confirmed that is how illegal survive.

While I am sure there are businesses that know their employees are illegal, the vast majority do not. So the stop business issue is not a valid argument.

 

How do you explain those telling us that businesses are calling them here and want them, need them and support their continued service?

Why don't they fire those who cannot tell the difference between legal and illegal paperwork? Why don't businesses train them?

Why don't they call the feds and ask? Isn't that something on record? Of course it would be on record.

 

I have owned manufacturing businesses in California that employed hundreds of people.

It is very difficult to weed out illegal workers. For the most part, the only way illegal workers are identified is when a letter is received from SSA indicating there is a problem with the employees Social Security number.

It is not legal to demand a worker be fluent in English. While there are some circumstances where English is required, ESL is not a provision to base employment on, and can lead to discrimination problems.

From my own experience, it is a problem to hire an illegal workers. Like all employees, they become important to the operation. If they suddenly disappear, that causes real issues, so most businesses don't want them in the work force.

Certainly construction and other similar trades are rife with illegal workers, and I would like to see those business owners jailed and financially ruined for engaging in such activity.

People need to keep in mind that businesses owners are not ICE agents.

 

So, you admit it only takes a background check and it could be instant, just as with buying firearms?

This can be a state law or a federal law. There needs to be a common language for business to be conducted properly within the nation.

They do have to hire folks to pay taxes for the illegal and legal citizens. How can they pay their proper amount of federal taxes from employees paychecks, if they haven't got an account to pay?

 

Not their decision where it concerns foreign nationals. The point is, you can't stop entry into the Union; the next best thing is to make money, not lose money, by ensuring all foreign nationals in the US have a federal id. A simple fee or fine can make that happen, right wingers.

 

too lazy to walk?

 

I can't speak for all businesses, but every employee my companies hired received a background check. If they are using a stolen identity, unless that identity is flagged, nothing comes back indicating a problem.

Perhaps you are not familiar with the process a business uses to vet potential employees.

As to English only, with few exceptions, it is against the law to demand English only.

Under the provisions of the California Fair Employment and Housing Act (FEHA), employers with at least five employees generally cannot limit or prohibit the use of any language in the workplace, except in rare circumstances when they can demonstrate a legitimate business necessity do so.​

 

It would be rather difficult to walk to another continent, or Canada for that matter.

 

location, location, location. it is a real estate term most People are familiar with.

 

Sure until you want to walk to Mexico.

 

It is al the decision of the citizens of these United States, whether it be about states which were to be individual nations or the nation.

 

what a difference a Constitution makes.

 

I'm not familiar with them not being able to pay payroll taxes for their employees. This is the issue. Businesses are at fault and need to be stopped. In your absence, others will be more than willing to take over the market where yours drops out. Competition is that high, obviously.

Thank you.

 

don't believe in Capitalism or individual and natural rights, right wingers?

 

Yeah, then you want to use theirs instead, when you are in Mexico. Can you explain why that is? You don't want to use the Constitution when here, but you do when there. Something is messed up about that.

 

What natural rights do you speak of? This is the second time I've asked.

 

An employer is able to pay payroll taxes on behalf of an illegal employee because to SSA, the stolen SS # is valid. It is only when SSA discovers one person working at two different employers that a flag is raised. That is when they send a letter asking the employee to rectify the problem. And once HR notifies the illegal worker there is a problem, they disappear.

It happened in my company a number of times, despite our efforts to insure all employees were legally allowed to work.

I don't have actual numbers, but I have discussed this issue with a number of fellow business owners, and they report the same problem. Most illegal forge documents and steal identities to get work. If you think about it, how are 8-10 million illegal aliens earing an income? They are not all in construction or agriculture.

 

lol. Their Constitution applies in Mexico.

The US Constitution applies here in the US.

 

All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id.

 

That sounds like a version of the Fugitive Slave laws and laws that banned free blacks from certain States.

 

It's about businesses being responsible. The government can't be everywhere, just like mum and dad weren't. You have to have some responsibility and those who do are stymied by California. They should have all funding taken from them, their government tried and thrown in prison, and their incomes taken from them and given to Mexicans.

I thought they were fake? Now they are legal, stolen ss #s. I think it's time for our government to be placed on notice before they take our guns away so they can allow businesses to rent them and make more money off of us, as well as taking away a basic right of the people.

And California has a right to spit in every citizen's face? Foreigners run the country.

 

What? Get back on track. You're way out in the gravel.

 

What natural rights? Show me in the Constitution.

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