Can America afford to pay a higher minimum wage?

So what?

If the income tax system is not fair now with the top 1% paying 40% of income taxes and the top 20% paying almost 90% and the bottom 50% paying almost nothing then what would be fair? Maybe we are the richest and most successful country in the world because we don't do what those other countries do and they should be more like us.

 

That's likely one of the best dodges I've seen in a while, congratulations.

 

Well thank you.
I too was impressed by your response.

 

Oh, yeah they are. For their percentage of total income they pay a far larger percentage of the total tax. And let’s be clear taxes are based on INCOME, not wealth.

 

So why are we the only modern country without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations? Thanks GOP and the missinformed.

 

I believe Senate Republicans should stop being lapdogs of corporations and greedy idiot mega rich GOP swine. They should vote their hearts and compromise sometime unlike the last 40 years. We used to lead the modern world culturally and economically, now we are a mess of inequality and crap upward mobility. No sacrifice is too great for the brain washing greedy idiot GOP rich to save on taxes.

 

Read the book. I just like yelling at The missinformed. If you listen to GOP propaganda for 5 years you're become totally missing formed. Look at Trump and the GOP base. I thought he was conning us but it turns out he just isn't that smart. Just a spoiled brat without political or history knowledge. Just the brainwash. Scary stuff. I blame Rupert Murdock in other words. Not allowed anywhere else basically. Powerful hateful propaganda non-stop...
Our cable news is not news at all, just arguing politics. No reporters no foreign offices just talking heads.

 

We have a flat tax system if you count all taxes. Of course being misinformed you only know about the income tax. They make that percentage of the income too lol. They should be paying more. GOP tax cuts for the rich mean the states had to raise taxes which kill the non-rich. Not to mention turning police into money making operations.

 

Not a chance.

 

And this graph makes sense how?

 

So, a billionaire pays 10% of his income, and a middle class guy pays 35%, who pays the most?

In narrow dollars, the billionaire does, but in terms of burden, the middle class shoulders the greater burden, because they are paying a greater share , expressed as a percentage of their wealth and income, than the rich guy, many of whom, when you factor in asset value accrual surpassing income and inflation, are paying practically nothing. 35% of a middle income guy is a lot more painful than 10% of a super rich guy, who won't even feel it.

Money is wealth, things that have value is wealth, anything that can be held and converted to cash, investments, etc, including cash, is wealth.

Your making a distinction that is basically bullshit. I don't care, really, what the law bases taxes on, I'm thinking of what we can do in the future, what we should do, based on fairness, and to be fair YOU CAN'T IGNORE WEALTH, I'm thinking like Warren thinks. If you are ignoring wealth, you're talking bullshit. Rich people play all sorts of games here, to avoid paying taxes, that' why I choose not to make a distinction between the two.

 

Doesn’t happen that way. Not even close.

LOL, so much nonsense, misstatements and partisan quackery. Oh, and bullshit.

 

Fact. Someone, probably of the leftist persuasion has lied to you. Repeatedly.

 

Nope, not a chance.

 

Increasing federal minimum wage will not help. Those in the corporate world have to WANT to pay more. They have to be willing to want to take a hit to their pocket books. All that federal minimum wage increase will do is hurt those in the lower income bracket. IE: Mom and pop stores. The ones just starting out and are living paycheck, at best. Corporations will simply absorb the extra cost. At best. At worst they will just increase their prices, which will just put us in the same situation that we are now in. Rent costs will increase because it costs more to buy maintenance products. Property prices will go up because materials cost more. etc etc. Raising the minimum wage affects far more than those just those being paid and those doing the paying.

 

Well, the companies are getting more stuff for hours worked.
It makes sense for the companies, the worker - not so much.

 

Yep:

 

Most making less than $15 an hour are in the service industries so they effect mostly your creature comforts.
So your $4 beer may now cost $4.50.

• The top industries for sub-$15 work are food services and drinking places, private households, agriculture, personal and laundry services, hotel/ motel accommodation, retail trade, and administrative and support services. In these industries, more than 60 percent of workers make less than $15 per hour.

Growing-Movement-for-15-Dollars.pdf (nelp.org)

 

Not buying it.

 

What you're not accounting for is that those industries not in your list are going to have to increase their wages also.

Think about it....Do you think someone currently making 15/per hr is going to want to stay in thier hard working position when they can go to an easier position for the same pay rate? Thier wages are going to have to go up also in order to keep them.

 

Where are they gonna go?

 

To an easier position. Thought I made that clear?

 

I don't think human nature works that way.
But give me an idea. You mean like the McDonalds manager will go back to flipping burgers? LOL

Anyway, I'm not seeing the inflation you're talking about.

 

I wasn't referring to specifics, just a general sketch.

But, your rebuttal is incompetent. Vacuous declarations are not a merit worthy argument.

 

Increasing the minimum wage to a livable level is the right thing to do. History has proven you wrong. No one complained in the 60s when unemployment was less than 4% and the minimum was $10, for years ( adjusting for inflation ), so they could at least pay that much. some do, some don't. Those that don't, should, and would, if there was a law. Some are arguing ror a $15 minimum. My view is those are workable in the big cities, but in smaller towns in more rural states, it might be too high. But $10 is doable, across America, as a baseline.

That's good enough to do it.