Can the GOP Adapt to Progress?

The sad thing is there was a day you could get the things you mentioned from the GOP, today, not a chance. The GOP needs a major shakeup and reform and until they do they will continue to lose more and more power. Get the radicals out of your Party, force the Libretarians out of your Party they only use it to get elected, stop pandering to special interest groups that the majority of Republicans disagree with, until that happens the GOP is a dead man walking and are too stupid to realize it. Personally I would love to have a choice once again when it comes time to vote.

 

But once they go democrat again they will stagnate like other democrat states and districts. Look at how bad their blue districts are for example. Horrifying statistics.

 

Really, then how do you explain Texas?

 

Your odd notion that the best-educated state are the least innovative is sustained neither by common sense nor demonstrable reality. Most states with the highest median household income (Maryland, Alaska, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Virginia, Hawaii, Delaware, California) are "blue" ones, whilst the lowest earning ones (Oklahoma, South Carolina, New Mexico, Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Mississippi) are usually classified as "red." (The striking correlation with academic achievement is inescapable.)

Political party affiliation "flipped" in the South during the 1960's civil rights era, and attempting to blame the present situation on Democrats of yore is a desperate strain.

Progress will come with education, and the GOP must progress as well.

 

You can try and ignore the math all you want Bush won the college vote twice and so did Romney....

no College = Obama +4 and +7 2008/2012 53% of the vote

some College = Obama +1 and +4 2008/20012 Bush +8 2004 29% of the vote

College = Romney +4 2012 Obama +4 2008 Bush +6 2004 29% of the vote

Postgrad =Obama +13 +18 Kerry +11 18% of the vote

Bush also won the some college and college vote in 2000

Obama won the election with 51% of the vote, less then the last time around and slaughtered Romney in the no HS diploma category. Just some simple math adding the totals from the post grad and uneducated shows that Republicans historically win the college and some college vote by wide margins. McCain lost every category because of the 08 crash and even Romney with his pathetic showing managed to win the bachelor vote yet again.

I have put forth the actual voter breakdown by education of who voted for who and their percentages of the overall vote. Republicans get more educated people while Democrats get more uneducated people or people with post grads who are only 18% of the vote.

Pllease keep on showing everyone that you are incapable of basic statistical comprehension.

 

You seem to cling to Romney recieving 51% of the vote of those with a college degree in 2012 after Obama had received 50% of that demographic in 2008. Even if you choose to ignore Obama receiving 55% of the votes of folks with advanced degrees vs 42% Romney (and 58% in 2008 vs 40% McCain) you need to understand the trend to recognize the progress.

The fact that the ten best-educated states voted for the President in 2012, and nine of the ten worst educated voted for Romney is obviously a reality that upsets you but, putting aside the obvious academic disparity - and more residents of "red" states aspiring to higher education bodes well for them and the nation - the GOP also faces an obvious problem in an increasingly diverse nation.

And the marked preference for the Democratic party amongst younger Americans is, undoubtedly, a trend that also causes you to be dismayed.

Since America's first non-white president was elected,

Some Republicans recognize the implications of the ineluctable trend, and have the audacity to bluntly state it:

 

Bush won the college vote in 2000 and 2004 and Romney wont it in 2012 despite his miserable showing. Are you seriously trying to argue that 2008 was a typical year. Obama beat McCain in every category in 2008 because of the crash. I have 3 of 4 elections where the Republicans got most of the bachelor vote and 2 of 4 elections where they won the some college vote and you only have 1 of 4 elections where the Dems won most of the college degree vote and that was in the McCain election during the 08 crash. Seriously, please go and take some statistics class of some kind......I don't even care if its online.

 

Folks who have a vested interest in the future cannot afford to content themselves with placebos, and they don't sugar coat the bitter pill they prescribe for the geezers:

A younger generation's Rx for their degenerating Party.

 

Ah, but their Taliban elders with brimstone for gall stones are waging an intra-party jihad in their zeal to make the GOP the champions of theocracy in America! They're sputtering that they haven't been strident enough! Get out the whips!

Where have all the young men and girls gone...

...........
"Armageddon sick of fanatical thumpers!
It's time for a Party Exorcism!"

 

Many, or better, most of the post are looking for progress as making a left turn. From the current GOP/Tea Party point of view progress is made by turning right. It is important to see things in different ways.

 

Progress? Yes things will progress as they always have. These kids with no life experience and no personal responsibility will grow up.

Just like all the kids who viewed Roosevelt as a grandfather grew up and voted for Eisenhower. Just as all the hippy boomers who grew up and voted for Reagan.

Progress will continue. These ignorant irresponsible (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags will grow up. They will gain life experience, they will take on more and more responsibility in their lives. They will not think the same way in a decade as they do now. They will not believe the same things they do now. They will look back and wonder how they could have been so ignorant and selfish.

Is the democratic with its mesage that only appeals to adolescents ready to adapt to that progress?

 

In order to embrace their libertarian people, they'd have to dismiss their social conservatives and evangelicals, which would in essence make them a different party anyway, and one that I could see myself voting for. I'm not really a libertarian per say, but I could be much more easily swayed in that direction than I ever will be to vote for social conservatives. Since I see social conservatism and libertarianism at odds with each other, I doubt the Republicans will ever truly be able to please both sides and I think if they have to choose, they'll choose the social conservatives.

 

Well, that was kind of my point. They've been choosing the social conservatives. But that choice has been increasingly costly. As I said, I think they will continue down that path for a while longer, but if social conservatism becomes a weight around their neck that causes them to lose time and time again, I think the leadership will have to change. Politicians care more about getting elected than any "principles" they might espouse.

 

As folks like Laura Ingraham liked to say, that was the Republicans' election to lose and, sure 'nuff, they went out and lost it. Miserable unemployment and underemployment, spiraling debt, more welfare recipients than ever, a black Marxist foreigner president - all that and Republicans still couldn't pull it together. The only reason Obama won is because no one likes Republicans.

 

Ron Paul was a pretty good compromise candidate so is rand but the alliance will break sooner or later.

 

I couldn't disagree more. Ron Paul is a compromise if your choices are between what we have now and total obliteration of the planet by an asteroid. Only when the alternate choice is so extreme that it's ridiculous is Ron Paul any kind of compromise. I'd rather have George Bush #2 drunk and high on crack the entire time be the president than Ron Paul.

 

I meant between social conservatives and social liberals.

 

All you really need to know how a future of total control under the Progressive Liberal Left is look at Detroit. Once the FED allows interest rates to rise and the Federal Government has no one to buy its bonds, the party will be over. Money does not fall out of the sky. The private sector (Conservatives) will lead the way out of the mess. There is no other way.

 

Not social cons, they are a dying breed.