Can We Call Trump a Killer?

Fascism is Marxism without the "withering away of the state" dreamcatcher.

"The essence of fascism is totalitarianism and a useful definition of totalitarianism might be the following: all aspects of human life are subject to the intervention of the state which reserves the right to provide final judgments, both value judgments and practical judgments, and all the various areas of human expression. No aspect of human behavior is immune to the ultimate definition and control of the state. Mussolini's famous slogan is in order here: Everything for the state, nothing against the state, no one outside the state.'"
S. J. Woolf Editor, "The Nature of Fascism," Random House NY 1968p. 11.

 

They were the enemy at that time, hardly an appropiate comparison

 

How does the nation of China not constitute an enemy in this particular matter?

 

Under this very definition, you are fascist to order someone to wear a mask. I support personal freedom and therefore am not a fascist. Puppets and slaves ask permission. I do not. I earned my right to my opinion and you are perfectly free to agree with me. Or not. Freedom works.

 

The CCP has been positioning China for war for a long time.

"An analysis by ProPublica shows that the Chinese government’s covert attempts to wield influence on Twitter have persisted. Our examination of an interlocking group of accounts within our data linked the effort to OneSight (Beijing) Technology Ltd., a Beijing-based internet marketing company. OneSight, records show, held a contract to boost the Twitter following of China News Service, the country’s second-largest state-owned news agency. The news service operates under the United Front Work Department, an arm of the Chinese Communist Party long responsible for influence operations in foreign countries. OneSight declined to comment and China News Service did not respond to our inquiries.

We asked Twitter whether it was aware of this continuing activity from Chinese-backed influence accounts. We identified some of the fake accounts, and sent a list of questions about the campaign. A spokesperson declined to respond specifically, instead providing the following statement: “Using technology and human review in concert, we proactively monitor Twitter to identify attempts at platform manipulation and mitigate them. If we identify further information campaigns on our service that we can reliably attribute to state-backed activity either domestic or foreign-led, we will disclose them.”
PROPUBLICA, SERIES: CORONAVIRUS, How China Built a Twitter Propaganda Machine Then Let It Loose on Coronavirus, ProPublica analyzed thousands of fake and hijacked Twitter accounts to understand how covert Chinese propaganda spreads around the globe., By Jeff Kao, and Mia Shuang Li, March 26, 2020.
https://www.propublica.org/article/...anda-machine-then-let-it-loose-on-coronavirus

 

It's OT. If you want to discuss China, start a tread and we'll discuss it or sub it with another poster. For comm directed at me, the topic on this thread is about Trump's incompetence resulting in needless deaths. That is what is up for debate. Not China. FYI, the OP doesn't say China isn't a contributor, but that's not the subject at debate in this thread.

 

There is no incompetence. Your hatred for Trump is your weak spot. Very weak like your premises.

If the wily Chinese have had 6,000 years to develop their culture --- and they did --- to survive they also learned intrigue and patience and all those neat things we learn from Sun Tsu. China matters very much with three of our aircraft carriers now in that region. Go ahead. Check. Trump's national defense policy in a nutshell --- face to face, this time in long-challenged strategic waters. Trump is definitely a leader, despite lying leftists claiming he's on the outs with a military which adores him.