Can We Call Trump a Killer?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Incompetent counter argument. You'll have do better than that if you desire a substantive response.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    One-meme Maestro.
     
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    Calm down, you're getting hysterical again.
     
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    It's sad we can't call a duck a duck, isn't it?
     
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    I guess using such dumb logic we can call Obama a killer for his slow response to ISIS.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    I disagree. Trump is a killer because his incompetence has resulted in more deaths than would have occurred by a more responsible president. Many articles have been published to that fact, I'm not making this claim in a vacuum, and, with each and every response you've offered so far, is a non response, and while you claim it's boring, or not worthy of a response, you keep on responding with non-refutations. You are really not making a lot of sense here.

    So, if you don't think the OP is worthy of a counter argument, why are you here?
     
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    Prove this assertion
     
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    It's a pity.... it forces one to use many paragraphs to explain what one means, when it could be boiled down to one or two words.
     
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    Invalid counter argument. Try contributing to the discourse, if you are serious.
     
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    Well, actually, you admitted to what I was getting at.

    Yet you claim to follow the post where I had it. Go look it up. It was CDC figures that about 30% of all COVID-19 patients were asymptomatic. This is NOT what you attempt to pull here...

    The 30% referred to had not known they had COVID-19 until they were tested.

    Have a nice fascist day making people pay fines for not wearing masks that won't fit or do the job. Made in China, can-ya-dig-it?

    The Mogadishu, Minnesota exercise strains all hope of recovering a speck of credibility for Democrats running cities. Seattle? The same. But getting you to admit not acting stupidly is where I wanted to bring you.

    I think I'll go listen to some Jethro Tull.... Album-length sounds nice.
     
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    Prove your claims.
     
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    Wear a mask in your own household? It's called marriage. In sickness and health. And until our kids are out of the house, they reliably will carry home every nasty little something, from a place public taxes helped pay for. Bless their little hearts.
     
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    Just clearing my throat.
     
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    The OP quotes an opinion piece of the same title, who states the case very well.

    Here is a quote from the OP article linked to:

    Trump has consistently been resistant to testing, falsely claiming that an increase in testing is somehow linked to an increase in cases. But in fact, the more you test, the more you are able to control the virus by identifying, isolating and treating the infected, thereby reducing the spread of the virus. Testing is how you reduce your cases. It is also how you save lives.

    "Slow the testing down, please" --- Donald Trump

    And there is this, to back up that Trump is actually slowing testing down:

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-follows-threat-slow-testing-163220493.html

    ",.....the administration is following through on Trump’s orders to slow down testing. The Department of Health and Human Services has announced it will pull funding from more than a dozen drive-through testing sites across five states, including Texas, at the end of the month."

     
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    See #164 Trump has been actively trying to slow the rate of testing, and, in so doing, increases fatalities as testing is one of the primary tools to identify who is asymptomatic in order to quarantine and contain the spread.

    In my view, deliberately attempting to slow testing, when it can be done better, is homicide.
     
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    So, once again you cannot back up anything you post. Your entire shtick is to post other people's opinion and act like it's a proven fact.
     
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    Did I catch that right? Yahoo Entertainment as a news source?

    What next, "The View"...?
     
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    It's a proven fact, "Slow the testing down, please" --- DJT. He's been deliberately slowing the testing. This is homicide.

    Now, if it is confirmed his staff did not follow his orders, then he's still guilty of WANTING to commit homicde. Either way, he's UNFIT for office, because, he did, in fact, say it, on more than one occasion.
     
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    Great. Glad we could agree. Even if I don't know what it was we agreed on.

    I know what 30% you are talking about. I just don't know what this "ignoring them" even means....

    That's what I said. What does not knowing they have Covid 19 have to do with "ignoring" them?

    Be glad I don't report posters for name-calling. But why the hell wouldn't the wear masks that do fit? If it weren't just Tuesday I'd start being suspicious of that yellow stuff you're drinking.

    Oh that's easy. I admit to not acting stupidly. There, you happy?

    But not even that helped me understand what the hell your point was?

    Stay away from "Aqualung"

    "Thick as a Brick" might be more appropriate for Trump supporters. Though soon they'll be listening to "Living in the Past"
     
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    Your idea of proven doesn't pass the sniff test, Maestro.
     
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    Really? So Trump is actually stopping people from getting tested if they want to?
     
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    According to Mr. Meme if I went to get tested the security guard would stop me and say "Trump says no.".
     
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    He did in fact, say 'slow the testing down', and if it is confirmed that his staff ignored his order, then he is, in fact, guilty of wanting to commit homicide.

    Now, wanting to commit homicide might not be a crime, but it's proof he is unfit for office.

    That one you can't deny. The president said, on more than one occasion " slow the testing down" "testing makes me look bad".

    Clearly, he is unfit for office.

    That point you cannot refute. It's unescapable. But that's just for starters.
     
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    I apologize and retract that statement. Although it strikes me as odd you would NOT consider forcing people to pay fines and wear masks as being an act of fascism.

    Because the Chinese sent the kind that didn't filter out the microbe thingys.

    Gave it up thirty years ago. As for yellow, I prefer root beer brown.

    Thrilled. You live to serve. Well done.

    I'm sorry. I thought you were keeping up.

     
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    Clearly you can't prove it without a few links to back your play. If he said it so often, why can't you link to it here instead of blowing hot air? Why is that your enduring modus operandi?
     
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