CCW to the rescue myth

Posted some already. Just because you fail to know about them them does not mean it does not happen.

 

What you are not saying is that these places check for guns with detectors. In other words, it would take a police state to stop these crimes. Gun violence is just hyperbole. We do not have a problem that calls for a police state.

 

Guess you never heard the saying, here paraphrased just for you, "Those who live by the gun are likely to die by the gun." Maybe I'll kick dirt on your headstone.

I don't need a gun because I don't live in fear.

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Still the fact remains, when there are no guns there is no gun violence.

 

Nothing like an old western saying based on gunslingers or hired guns, of which has nothing to do with self protection. Ignorance is bliss as the saying goes. If you think you are immune to violence, you might get a surprise someday.

Being prepared to protect yourself or your family has nothing to do with 'living in fear' but with making choices you wish not to make just as many are taken by surprise when their power goes out and are not prepared. Those not prepared will be the most vulnerable.

The fact remains that you cannot put the cat back in the bag no matter how much authoritarian rule you wish to live under.

 

Well, I have no desire to live a police state where the government is everywhere.

 

Actually it comes from the Christian Bible, something Jesus said except he used the term sword instead of gun. The simple message remains, those who advocate and practice violence are more likely to succumb to it than those who don't.

 

Sorry, but the same applies. Live by the sword means live by war making. Nothing like that applies. Your last sentence actually makes sense since it is gangbangers that are often the victim of the same violence they perpetrate.

 

Wow are you off base there.

Law enforcement is armed and has a heavy permanent presence in court houses. Court houses are not gun free zones at all, not even close.

The same for airports. Armed cops of all kinds are all over airports.

Schools, on the other hand, might have one or two cops or security guards and sometimes they are not armed. That's not a large presence at all.

The Aurora Theater was a true "gun free zone" until the mass killer showed up (the only gun free theater in about 20 miles and apparently selected by the killer because it was a gun free zone) .

 

Extremely misleading. The attached 2 figures are the violent crime rate and the homicide rate in Australia. The AUS data is directly from the AUS Bureau of Statistics Crime Reports, the USA data from the FBI UCR, I just made a graph of the numbers. AUS implemented its gun ban 1996. Before the ban, homicide and violent crime had been decreasing.



Notice that in the 6 years after the ban took effect, violent crime increased 44% and homicide increased 16%. Homicide decreased and eventually dropped below the pre-ban rate. Violent crime dropped but is still above the pre-ban rate.

The current USA violent crime rate is around 400 and has steadily declining 55% since 1991.

So for AUS, less guns meant more violence. For the USA, more guns meant less violence.

The data is clear, more guns means less crime.

 

Being scared isn't a prerequisite for being murdered anyway.

I hear the moon is a good place to avoid gun violence.

Owning a gun does not make one violent.

They don't care about violence. They only care about gun violence, which is the most absurd position in existence.

 

I am assuming this is a troll thread. No one is that (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid.

 

Oh but they are. Many of the stupidest people alive are gun control politicians.

 

You should appreciate all efforts to support the cause of the Second Amendment fanatics. Certainly it's better to spread the propaganda that thousands of lives are saved each day by good guys with guns, rather than tell America the truth.

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They have saved me several times & I am just one man. Not everyone is a sniveling little coward.

 

Only cowards must depend on firearms to face an opponent. The brave, we need only our fists, and intelligence.

From Second Amendment fanatics, there is that constant cluck, cluck, cluck.

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Easy there Ironfist.

 

No, old time bar fighter. Only p(*)ssies need guns.

 

We should start dropping our troops in with brass knuckles.

 

Let Bluto here spend a night in 'da hood' and we'll see how bringing two fists to a gunfight works out for Mr. Tough Guy.

 

Seventy plus years ago, U.S. troops defeated the Nazis and the Japanese in less than four years, what does that say about the United States' modern military, still fighting rag tag forces in Afghanistan after all these years. In there younger days, WWII troops would kick modern U.S. troops a(*)(*)es. Then go out for a beer.

 

And if our liberal "leaders" were more concerned with winning conflicts than providing free gender reassignment surgery perhaps we wouldn't still be there.

 

Not really. The Republicans promise their masters to maintain wars of choice as cash cows for their war profiteering cronies. Years of war only costs thousands of troops lives and only sends tens-of-thousands more back to their families disabled and maimed. To conservatives and neoconservatives, this is a very reasonable price to pay, to allow the fat cats to pocket hundreds-of-billions of dollars in profits.

The right-wingers lack of concern for disabled veterans is infamous.
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Have you been to Afghanistan or Iraq? Did you serve? If not, then please refrain from 'Chairborne Commando' statements.

 

Who cares? Anyone who has a gun and is bent on destruction will simply shoot anyone who gets in their way. So what's your point?

 

Coming from a First amendment fanatic that thinks his rights could never be trampled and thinks his opinion is 'truth'.