CDC: Gay men are 2% of the population but 55% of HIV cases

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    The MSM ignoring it, that's anybody's guess. I don't pay much attention to MSM. Among so called "gay media" it is not at all ignored. Best I can think is the MSM doesn't want to be accused of casting negativity onto homosexuals. It's a shame. A lot of young gay men could benefit from this knowledge.
     
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    And then there is the real world.

    •From 2005 to 2014, HIV diagnoses among both black and Hispanic/Latino gay and bisexual men aged 13 to 24 increased about 87%. Among young white gay and bisexual men, HIV diagnoses increased 56%.
    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/age/youth/
     
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    And then there is current news:

    http://mobile.aidsmap.com/New-HIV-cases-decline-in-US-but-population-and-geographic-disparities-persist/page/3020463

    The only demographic seeing increases is black/Hispanic gay men. All other demographics saw significant declines. White gay men (the largest segment) saw a 19% reduction.
     
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    Yeh try continue reading... gay POC (blacks and Hispanics) are the only groups seeing increases. And mainly in the south.
     
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    Congratulations. Infection rates have still gone up for gays.
     
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    They have also gone up for men using your metric.
    There are only two isolated groups causing the increase - but feel free to continue to ignore anything that doesn't help your agenda.
     
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    Not according to my metric. Not according to the article. I suspect you just made that up.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    Um...actually it's quite common in the gay community. Every magazine I've ever picked up, every parade I've ever been to, there is discussion about getting tested, using protection on and on.

    So it is absolutely present in the gay community.

    I've even seen public service announcements in pornography urging gay men to get tested and use protection to stop the spread of HIV.
     
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    Well you likely don't consume news geared toward gay men. If you did you'd see it.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    So how do you stop people from having sex?
     
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    This is the most well written response. The blame lies on the people who are responsible. It's quite odd that the highest group of people of newly infected people are under between 15 and 25. There must be a reason for that. I have my ideas but what do you think?
     
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    The right doesn't seem to report on it either. It's likely because it effects such a small number of people and reporters want lots of readers.
     
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    AIDS is overwhelmingly a disease of homosexual men and I.V. drug users. The occasional woman who gets AIDS is usually engaging in anal sex with a bisexual man.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    Actually it's largely a heterosexually transmitted disease. Most people that contract it get it from their mother in the womb.
     
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    One is parents not doing their job not only watching out for their kids, but also not educating them properly . As for kids outside mommy and daddies home, they are simply just being reckless. Nothing at all wrong with sex, but there are consequences for not being safe about it or not educated enough. But all in all, unless one was forced, the outcome is the responsibility of those carrying out the act.
     
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    I think there is something else contributing to this specifically in gay boys. I don't think anybody is to blame is just something that gay youth have to navigate. Based on my experience with my parents (not to say they weren't great parents because they absolutely are) they weren't equipped to face this, who would be?

    I know as a youth I would have done anything to not be gay. As often as I would purge my desires is binge them, sometimes recklessly, though i never engaged in risky sex. I wonder if this behavior plays a role.
     
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    The majority of AIDS sufferers (worldwide) are heterosexual .... last time I checked.
     
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    Young gay men can be just as sexually sensible as anyone else. And young straight men can be just as reckless as anyone else.

    I don't think there's anything inherent to orientation which decides this. How could there be?

    It would have to be a matter of environment.

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    Abstinence is a fools errand. But that doesn't mean we can't raise kids who are DISCERNING about sex.
     
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    HIV Diagnosesa

    In 2014, an estimated 44,073 people were diagnosed with HIV infection in the United States. The number of new HIV diagnoses fell 19% from 2005 to 2014. Because HIV testing has remained stable or increased in recent years, this decrease in diagnoses suggests a true decline in new infections. The decrease may be due to targeted HIV prevention efforts. However, progress has been uneven, and diagnoses have increased among a few groups.

    Gay and bisexual menb are the population most affected by HIV. In 2014:
    •Gay and bisexual men accounted for an estimated 83% (29,418) of HIV diagnoses among males and 67% of all diagnoses.
    •Black/African Americanc gay and bisexual men accounted for the largest number of estimated HIV diagnoses (11,201), followed by white gay and bisexual men (9,008).

    Among all gay and bisexual men, trends have varied by race and over time. From 2005 to 2014:
    •Among white gay and bisexual men, diagnoses dropped steadily, declining 18% overall.
    •Among Hispanic/Latinod gay and bisexual men, diagnoses rose by 24%.
    •Although diagnoses among African American gay and bisexual men increased 22%, they have leveled off in the past 5 years, increasing less than 1% since 2010.
    •Young African American gay and bisexual men (aged 13 to 24) experienced an 87% increase in diagnoses. But since 2010, diagnoses have declined 2%.

    Heterosexuals and people who inject drugs also continue to be affected by HIV. In 2014:
    •Heterosexual contact accounted for 24% (10,527) of estimated HIV diagnoses.
    •Women accounted for 19% (8,328) of estimated HIV diagnoses. Diagnoses among women are primarily attributed to heterosexual contact (87%, or 7,242) or injection drug use (13%, or 1,045).This includes anal sex with bisexual partners.
    •An estimated 6% (2,635) of HIV diagnoses were attributed to injection drug use.

    From 2005 to 2014:
    •Diagnoses among all women declined 40%, and among African American women, diagnoses declined 42%.
    •Among all heterosexuals, diagnoses declined 35%, and among people who inject drugs, diagnoses declined 63%.

    African Americans continue to experience the greatest burden of HIV compared to other races and ethnicities. Hispanics/Latinos are also disproportionately affected by HIV. In 2014:
    •African Americans represented about 12% of the US population, but accounted for an estimated 44% (19,540) of HIV diagnoses.
    •Hispanics/Latinos represented about 17% of the US population, but accounted for an estimated 23% (10,201) of HIV diagnoses.
     
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    this is significant. don't these groups also have the highest rates of poverty, the lowest levels of education, and the highest levels of obesity, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc etc?
     
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    straight or gay sex, it doesn't make a difference. When you go whoring around and doing risky things without even using protection you are simply playing with fire. And some people get into some seriously freaky (*)(*)(*)(*), even going as far as making each other bleed and other nasty things. Then those same people might fool around with someone else, although might not be as extreme but they just sucked on someones blood or maybe worse the night before without the present partner knowing a thing about it.

    A lot of things can lead to this, but the main factor is not being safe and either doing some sick (*)(*)(*)(*), or not using protection. But parents could do a better job of at least educating their child about sex.
     
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    Well of course they can, but i don't think heterosexual boys feel they need to be homosexual as often as it goes the other way.

    I was explaining something from personal experience, something I have an insight in. I wasn't blaming orientation.

    What do you mean by this?

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    So how do you get parents to talk to their kids about sex?
     
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    Well of course they should, I didn't really want to talk about that, I don't think anybody would say that more attention and education regarding sex is a bad idea.

    There has to be something connecting it with orientation because it's considerably higher among young men and boys that have sex with the same sex.
     
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    Well education is the simply key to everything, if you are not educated you are bound to make many screw ups down the line.

    But as far as the gay lifestyle I cannot pretend like I understand it completely. I mean I have friends that are gay as well as a couple family members, but I don't lead that life.

    I would say that from what I can see that gay men do seem a little more premiscuous overall compared in general to straight people. Not that that's a bad thing, but maybe the fact that gay people are such a small minority perhaps that leads to such action because finding a suitable partner might be a little harder in a sense? Same effect when you go to a club and there are only 15 girls to 50 men.

    I dunno really, I guess that might be a good conversation with my bud, I never really talked to him or the other gay guys I know about this subject. Too busy laughing and drinking when we are around them lol.
     

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