Challenge for Atheists: Define God

Badass non-sequitur yo!

 

.. it follows...

It follows that Truth is our god whether I say it myself or the Gospels said the same thing:

John1:1
In the beginning was the Word, (i.e.; Truth: [John 14:6]), and the Word, (Truth, itself), was (synonymous) with God, (i.e.; Reality), and the Word, (Truth: [John 14:6]), was (indistinguishable from Reality), God (almighty for all men).

2 "He," (Truth, the symbolic Word to come: [Jud 1:3]) was with God, (the ever unfolding Reality), in the beginning, (that is, the initial unfolding of Reality is what as the Creation).

Jn 1:3 ALL (real) THINGS, (phenomenally, i.e.; mentally), came into existence through him, (this concept of Truth), and apart from him, (this ideal of Truth), not even ONE (real) thing came into (actual) existence.

 

I am asking you for a 'possible' scientific answer to what magic 'could' be. Not tricks,not a computer or a bic lighter, just the power of the mind or whatever. I was hoping you would take a stab at it from a completely hypothetical standpoint. Im not arguing against your "nature is God" standpoint but rather trying to embrace it.. But I do believe in Miracles Bishadi, I believe Jesus did some magical stuff back in the day however illogical that is to you and others.

For example, remember that movie called powder ? The kid was full of energy and could do neat stuff . lol but he was full of energy and that is natural. I know the movie was just fiction but maybe Jesus had something like that going on or whatever. Why not just take a stab at it and give me some natural explanation to how psi phenomena could elevate to those extremes,or rather, make it possible.

I don't understand this. Are you saying the name of God is a definition ?

 

An interesting question! I do try at all times to treat others fairly; I believe in mercy and compassion; I very often 'turn the other cheek' so to speak... and in real life I am much more humble than I might appear from this forum... and in many other respects I just happen to have a morality that coincides quite often with that of Christ. I wouldn't say I "worship" the truth but I do hold it in very high regard. If that's enough to make me a Christian then I won't reject that label. But I think Christ was quite clear that his central message was that he was the way to god. I don't buy that for a second - and I think most people would conclude that therefore I am not in fact a Christian.

 

Why do I need to define something that I have no experience of for myself, that I have never seen and that only others are telling me I should 'believe in this idea' without proof?

I don't need to define it anymore than I need to define Bigfoot or Ancient Atlantis or Zeus.

 

the entanglement of light (the cross (em))

ie.... the gravity of nature

In a sense, 'words' are magic (with words, men DO move mountains) and manmade.

Check out this creation: ghanapsyphilherpalaids

look for understanding the whatchamajigger to understand how 'we' all can create, equally

Look up that hairy krishna dude. He supposed services 16ooo plus wives. That beats all the virgins promised and magic that's supposed to come, because jesus didnt finish the job.

Any man, blue or other, than can make 16k wives happy, is a god and worthy of worship, agreed?

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absolutely.

good thinking

ie... with comprehending the process of mass/energy/time to the letter, anything, everything and specifically UNDERSTANDING is existing.

It is what the whole process of knowledge evolving is about and what the three religions of abraham ALL state to await.

the name of da boss



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If Christ actually is an euphemism for the concept of Truth, as an Ideal, then his "Father" is the ever unfolding Reality which sires that Truth in its wake.

Truth then IS, de facto, the way to such a God, i.e.; Reality.

 

True.
In those cases you do not.

But do you bow down to Reality?
Do you face the facts of Life, or suffer otherwise?


The almighty Force behind the constant, eternal unfolding, next frame of the Reality you encounter demands that you adapt to it, or suffer its wrath and ultimately die; even a second death is possible, as a species.

You are called insane if you will not face Reality, and try to live in fantasy.
Only Truth can save you.

And, you must make it a personal relationship between your Conscious thinking and the Truth you form within your mind, so you can bow down to Realty.

 

Whose truth is it?
What is the truth?
According to who/what? Each own?

 

Are you speaking of the Christian ideal of God, Zeus or Bigfoot?

I don't want to bow down to Realty- seriously home purchase is not a god.

But I face reality all the time. Which is why I don't believe in any God.

 

Are you saying you're actually a pantheist deep down?

 

It's a bit ironic that though your claim to know the answer to your own question is false your post does indeed provide the answer.

Can someone define God? An atheist would say no. Indeed the lack of definition beyond that of individual belief is the bases for why most atheists are atheists.

Your post is oozing with the desire to prove that your definition of God would or could somehow change our minds, that it is our lack of knowledge pertaining to your definition that is prohibiting us from seeing the truth.

That we have just been spending our time on all the wrong definitions of God suggesting the idea that there is a correct definition yet when pressed your definition would hold just as much validity as any other for the simple fact that it is based solely on belief.

This is the very reason you get the concept of the FSM thrown at you or the challenge of proving pink unicorns don’t exist and it must be a testament to the strength of your faith that you don’t understand the reason behind this.

If you want to believe in something whether it be God or a pink unicorn fine with me but until you have something beyond your faith to even suggest that there might be some truth to it you don’t get tax exemptions, you don’t get to tell women what they can do with their bodies, you don’t get to tell people who they can marry, YOU DON’T GET TO VOICE YOUR OPINION ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE which when I think about it should cover just about everything.

Would you want to give credence to the opinion of someone who thinks Elvis is living in the woods with leprechauns for no other reason than because he believes it and it makes him feel like a better person? If you can answer why it is you wouldn’t then you are one step closer to understanding atheism.

Provide a model from which your hypothesis can be tested and your definition will have separated itself from the rest, until then there is no definition of God.

 

It doesn't matter if it's a proxy, Swensson. Atheists claim to define God this way, exposing the dishonesty of atheism.

 

Vote #3

Vote #4 (Nothingness)

Vote #3

Odd vote: "God is existence?"

Vote #1

Vote #4 "Non-existence"

Odd vote: "God is nature itself."

Odd vote: "Superhuman entity", possibly vote #3

This sounds like agnosticism.

More agnosticism, an atheist is one who claims and believes God does not exist.

This thread is directed to atheists, not agnostics.

Vote #1

Vote #1

Vote #1

Odd vote

You're an agnostic, not an atheist.

Odd vote: "God is irrelevance?"

This is not a definition of God, Zio-Wolverine. You are required to share your definition of Him, here.

Odd vote

Odd vote

Odd vote

I ask because I want to learn more about the atheist religion.

Odd vote: "God is truth?"

You need to define God to justify your atheist religion.

How can atheists claim that God doesn't exist, when they don't even know the definition of God?

If I came across a new word, apple, and I claimed that apples don't exist, and everybody else is telling me they do, then who's in the wrong? I am, because apples exist.

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Most atheists are choosing option #1, "invisible man", so far......... I wonder what more atheists will say?

 

Again you point out the absurdity of your faith in an ironic fashion.

If you came across the word apple and chose not to believe it existed without any inquiry into its existance even from the basic stance of probability that would be an act of faith which directly flies in the face of atheism, while your denial of something that can actually be proven in the most simplistic sense based on your desire to reject it is one of the most important parts of being religious.

Again Atheism escapes you.

 

No we don't
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What is the difference between a fundy and a compulsive liar?
Seems like not much.

 

there is no better 'argument' than this. and might I say, it's superbly well voiced in this instance. christians will invariably get stuck right at this point - as it's the deal breaker. they can't progress their position beyond this, no matter how many ways they twist it.

 

No,I'm both. I don't BELIEVE in a god, therefore I am an atheist.

I don't KNOW if there is a god or not, therefore I am an agnostic.

 

http://www.cracked.com/blog/3-despicable-internet-behaviors-that-are-really-your-fault/

(Point number 3, read it)

 

He will never understand it.

 

Is this supposed to pass for some kind of valid point?

Let me try...

If you came across a new God and he took a big fat dump in your mouth, and you claimed it was roses, and everyone else is telling you your mouth smells like arse, who's in the wrong? You are, because your head is indeed full of crap.

 

Sheesh, H. is exasperating, but is he that bad?

 

I guess that depends on how well he can take a joke.

 

He's not that much worse than some of the other candidates here on the forum, but he is considerably more overtly trollish.