Atheist didnt/dont define 'god' that way. The FSM is a method of assisting any person of realizing the liars keep lying about a 'god'. The FSM is an educational tool that can assist morons in identifying their own stupidity.
'god is nature itself' is the base description, nothing magical, nothing miracle, no failure, includes all and is a fact. Punks cant read! I aint an atheist, as I know "GOD" personally. Theist cant define, justify, describe or even talk to a 'god', so what the hell are them morons praying too? i do i know the last word to all arguments; the name of god (nature) and you dont! iee...... nature provides everything to all (god itself) And to suggest otherwise, is lying! Can you point out which poster is an atheist?
God: A mythical father figure created by mankind in order to replicate the childhood feeling of protection from harm that was often provided by the familial patriarch. Evidence for existance is provided by most religions in the form of texts and/or writings that have been passed down through generations, with followers of each religion believing their texts to supercede those of other religions. Continued worship assured in western religions by ensuring children are indoctrinated from an early age, and that social contact is largely limited to the "church community" to ensure minimal exposure to any other world views that may challenge the dogma selected. Does that answer your question?
I guess the problem is we are talking about several different things at once (as ever). For example, I think that there is no evidence for a Christian God (or any other that I have heard of) existing, so naturally I do not think that those God exist - this is logically enough yer? When I say I am agnostic/a rationalist that what I mean, there isn't evidence so I don't think it's true. This is not about belief, it's about fact. Atheist is a positive belief that God isn't real, when I say I'm an Atheist I am normally talking about the Christian God (naturally enough as I come from a Christian country). By which I mean the atemporal, all powerful , all knowing all good superbeing being broadly talking about in the bible. I believe that God is not true - because I look at the world and it doesn't seem to add up. This however is a belief, not fact per se.
""""This however is a belief, not fact per se""""" That's something atheists realize and believers can't understand...the difference between fact and belief...
I think that's the job of believers in a God. A coherent definition of God must be presented before that term can be meaningfully discussed. None having ever been brought forth, the term 'God' is itself meaningless (which I'll just note is not the same as 'nothing'). If you think the term 'God' has meaning, then it's up to you to supply that meaning. If you will not, then there's really nothing left to discuss.
You just quoted a page full of us defining it, and then said we don't know the definition of it. What an utter, utter farce of a post.
Who is God? Well, when you want something really bad, and you close your eyes and concentrate real hard on it, and ask for it with all your heart, God is the one who ignores you.
I must admit I'm curious why this thread is labelled "challenge for ATHEISTS". You could level the same, trolling, farcical 'challenge' at theists too.
Theists are as capable as proving that their particular god exists as monkeys are at proving that bigfoot exists. After well over ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND years of human evolution, not one, NOT ONE, person can prove that their magic friend even EXISTS. Religions are pathetic. If their "god" wants my loyalty, he can simply prove it to me, unequivocally (he's god after all - should be real easy.)
Maybe the OP is hoping someone will come up with a defensible definition, because he can't think of one himself.
It's hilarious seeing atheists worked up like little ants on an anthill. You atheists sure do love to claim "GOD DOES NOT EXIST", when, you don't even know what God is???? Why are you claiming God doesn't exist, when you don't even know the meaning of God?????? If I tell you pommes don't exist, then are you going to keep denying it when I tell you it's an apple? Atheists, does NXNWOE exist?????? Tell me, what is your definition of NXNWOE????????????? Why are you an atheist, when you don't even know what NXNWOE means????????????
This thread is chock full of people defining godhood. What would be hilarious is if you weren't trolling and you really were so mind-bogglingly stupid as to post such a response with a straight face.
all mass, all energy, all time; existence itself................ god. we live within 'it' nothing to debate. can i have the number to your phamacist, i have a few ????????? to ask.
Bishadi you're not an atheist. And I want ATHEIST'S opinions on this topic. You believe in nature=God, so this is not what Atheists claim.
i dont believe in the manmade creation called a 'god'. Nature itself is our everything (god) and not you, the pope, bibi, obama or any god you can think of is going to change that. Most any atheist is just an evolved theist. For either an atheist or a theist to comprehend what is real supercedes your definition of any atheist/theist divide.
Why ignore my posts Heretic? Once again you prove your position false in an ironic fashion. You have illustrated our position superbly while completely exposing yours. You make something up, something that cannot be proven to exist or in this case even make sense and then laugh at us for not believing it exists due to the absense of evidence and complete lack of reason. We can't know what NXNWOE is if it isn't anything. It would be no different if I asked you to define what isn't in my pocket. How can accepting everything on the basis of nothing be considered the superior position?
Well then suppose you enlighten us on the definitions. Still not going to change things. God is not a fact and only a belief.
This thread is the same tired old feeble attempt to shift the burden of proof to the skeptic. Look, theists are the ones claiming there is a god, atheists are those who simply haven't bought it. They don't have to define or prove anything regarding god. That's up to the theists. If you can give me a convincing argument along with evidence supporting it I'll believe. Until then I'm unconvinced. Now that certainly doesn't mean I'm asserting that there is no god. I'm not...I have no way to prove that nor do I care to. I simply haven't accepted the theists assertions that one (or more than one) exists. Comprede theists? It's just not that hard to understand but I guess if you're determined to not understand, you will!
I am going to answer a thing. Atheism is no religion. And my pick was simple, I took the definition that most theists gave of god, a magical being. And according to this, there are any proofs of its existence, therefore there is no god. Until someone proves the opposite I don't have any reason to think that this thing can possibly exist. Atheism is no religion. The lack of belief never can be a religion. If atheism is a religion, then you, as a non-believer of fairies, also that could be a religion. Or as have been said many times if I don't collect stamps and I don't like it, that is not my hobby: the non-collection of stamps, that is not a hobby. The same with religion, the lack of religion or faith is not a religion. As sedentary lifestyle is not a sport.
God is who/what ever one wants him/her/it/they/us to be. I haven't seen your definition. I suppose it is a super natural being that has existed since infinity and does super natural things that no one today has seen.