Charlottesville takes down Lewis-Clark-Sacagawea statue

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  1. grapeape

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    No, Im not talking about redistribution of wealth, I'm talking about fairness in income. There is a huge difference. Income still requires work, but it requires fairness in the distribution of the profits. There is no reason that the guy who build the widget has to get government assistance to live in a tiny apartment, struggling to feed their family, while the boss has enough disposable income to build and fly a spacecraft. I didn't see anyone bitching about Branson getting $200 million in government assistance to build that spaceship, but they all jumped in to the thread about those "ghettos" because the poor guys are pissed off.

    JFC. You're in here talking about sterilizing poor people, and refuse to address WHY THEY ARE THERE. They are there because it's the only place they can afford to live. You want to solve the "ghettos" ? Raise the minimum wage to a living wage. Ghettos aren't places for black people, they are places for POOR people. The fact that many of them are black, kinda...maybe.....points to a little racism in america.

    Get them out of the ghettos, and that helps get them out of the "thug life". Drugs are prevalent in the ghettos because its a way to make money. One would think in coservatopia that would make them an entrepreneur. But because of who they are, and where they live, they are a thug. But that racism doesn't exist right ? The fact that selling crack carries anywhere from 2 to 5x the same jail time as powder cocaine cant possibly be due to racism in the law right
     
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    LOL, false left wing narratives are hylarious.
     
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    LoL, "sterilizing poor people" where the heck did you get that from because it wasn't me. Providing free contraceptives and abortions isn't "sterilizing poor people"... its a key part of the liberal agenda. I gave you two concrete examples that show simply removing people from the ghettos and putting them somewhere else (new housing projects, FEMA camps) doesn't change a damn thing because they quickly turn their new environment into a ghetto! Damn dude, maybe spend more time reading and less time conjuring up delusions of racism? And I don't if anyone ever tried to explain mandatory mediums to you but the reason crack rock warrants higher sentencing is because of the drastically higher body count associated with the dealing of it.
     
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    You could of been more polite.
     
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    You want to stop them from having children. No matter how you do it, it is the same thing. But you do you boo.

    No, it doesn't change when you move them to “FEMA camps” etc….i wonder why that is….oh yeah, THEIR STILL POOR. I just love how the money conversation is a non starter for the right, but they just expect change without changing their own situation. You want to change it, give people a living wage so they can live on their own and have some self esteem.

    Nobody is debating that some people ARE abusing welfare and other government programs. But the idea that people live in the ghetto because they want to is ridiculous
     
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    southern conservatives you mean, the same ones that support Confederate statues and flags even today
     
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    The goofy attempt to conflate the past to the present. Are you proud of democrats history of racism?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only CRT I accept was introduced in 1927, and ceased to exist for all intends and purposes some 15 years ago. So no CRT exists, or needed outside some special interests.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't Democrats ever speak of black slave owners? From what I know, black slave owners were treating their black slaves most viciously. We mush speak about that part of our history.
     
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    No man you're becoming a little unhinged here. Birth control stops working when you stop using it, sterilization is permanent. And yes the point is clearly for them to stop breeding because our resources are limited and, like it or not, we just wont be converting to a socialist pesudo-utopia where everyone gets an equal share of the world's wealth. It makes no sense whatsoever for people who can barely care for themselves to reproduce and yet not only do they reproduce they do so excessively. The growth of the ghettos parallels the growth of generational welfare, it is an unavoidably reality and impediment to long term improvement.

    And being poor doesn't make them criminals, the 'thug life' cultural of criminality that I spoke to in post #64 does. You think its only about having money well guess what? In addition to be removed from the ghetto and placed in nice neat clean FEMA camps those people were also money; relief checks, some in the sums of $10-12,000. Guess what happened? As soon as those checks went out there was a massive spike in drug activity recorded by almost every police narcotics unit in the state and along the gulf coast, a massive spike in the number of illegal firearms confiscations suggesting transactions were up, and marked spike in various commerce such as used car lots, big box electronic stores, and liquor stores. People took their 'free money' and bought drugs, guns, cars, tvs, and booze, then went back and partied up in their nice new environment and before the year was out the place had turned into another violent disgusting ghetto.

    YOU CANNOT FIX THIS BY SIMPLY THROWING MONEY AT IT. Money which we really have to spare and money which in their hands has shown to do nothing but amplify their problems. What we need is to change their minds. They should not be proud of thug culture, and yet at every turn in America today its Black pride this and Black superiority that and a constant race hustle where progressives try and put the blame for every problem on White people who have the exact same problems but at nowhere near the same rates due the simple fact that White culture doesn't idolize buck toothed meth head trailer trash.
     
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    Guess you missed the part where I clearly said raise WAGES, but from your post you pretty much only read propaganda. <sarcasim>Yep all those black people are just buying booze and drugs and boom boxes with their free gubment money</sarcasim> I read your post and pretty much saw the definition of cliche pop off the page.

    Have a nice day
     
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    Wages, tax credits, relief checks, welfare, its all money. And that was a specific example to refute your general premise that simply giving people more money can be the solution to all their problems. Well, its not, and I demonstrated that - or rather they did several million times over. I'm to be adding you to my ignore list now because, IMO, these unhinged responses go far beyond simply disagreement approaching the realm of trolling. Don't worry its not forever.
     
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    Great Points! Shame they took down the statues of Lewis, Clark and Sacagawea. These three are American heroes.

    Here’s How Critical Race Theory Activists Lie To America.
    Which is not only ridiculous, but if you don't immediately and eagerly swallow the nonsense, then this racist clown deems YOU to be a racist for pointing out that his claims are obviously false and certainly nothing that should be crammed down the throats of school children.

    Kendi is lying, but, it's all in his book: Stamped From the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America.
    It's terms of "logic" that's a diaper skid.
    He does a lot of point assuming.
    Well, racial inequity could be evidence of racist policy, but there are a wide abundance of other possibilities as well that Kendi refuses to even consider even as he demands blind alliegeance to his his faulty reasoning.

    His solution is a totalitarian bureaucracy, so, on top of everything else, he is also a moron. The American People will not be ruled by a totalitarian bureaucracy. He is demonstrating zero understanding of, and no regard for the American People. I suggest we return his complete disregard of us, to him.
    That's really all you need to know about him to properly label him a deluded fool. Though quite wealthy now with the book sales to school districts.
    She's exactly right.

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    Drops a Truth Bomb
     
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    I'm of the opinion that all statues and monuments need to come down. Regardless of who or what, they'll offend someone. The best way no to offend anyone is to having nothing there at all.

    Oh wait, taking all of them down will probably offend some, so its dang if you do, dang if you don't What an asinine era we live in today.
     
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    Safe spaces are vital, eh?
     
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    IE.... they did not protect their borders from a massive influx of Washington political hacks/bureaucrats flooding into their state.
     
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    Can my granny keep her tombstone or does that count as a monument?
     
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    I'm sure at sometime in the future they'll be coming after tombstones depending on what is on them.
     
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    Seriously, where do these ideas come from !!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Democrat
     
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    Don't you just cringe whin you look at your coins and bills and see all those white monsters on them? You flip them over and there it is that insulting "In God We Trust". Should I melt down my Sacagawea dollar coins? Lewis and Clark? Really. I wonder if it would have stood if it was Homer and Jethro. All those minorities killed by police will have statues created of their likeness and will line the National Mall and be renamed " Martyr's of the Street Mall". Let us burn all books before and after Barack Hussein Obama. All whites need to be stripped of their wealth and those that oppose sent off to work on Chicken Ranchs and watermelon farms. In the winter all copies of "White Christmas" will be burned in a huge bonfire. All "Woke" silliness will be celebrated as serious doctrine. Kamala Harris will be in charge of all "Wokeness" laughter. All knee-jerk reactions to this post will be relabeled "George Floyd reactions". If you think this post is hysteria and hyperbole then you haven't really been paying attention who is running your country at present.
     
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    If you are referring to some Confederate grave stones, I will cross that bridge when we get there. Private property stones are a whole other issue.
     
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    And when you do cross that bridge, I can't help but wonder what you will do to those remains.
     
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    We will see if it happens too.
     
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    I was being facetious ...
     

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