Cheney Wrong then, wrong now

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He could have said no deal, and pushed for declaring war on Germany.
     
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    So Britain (who's majority of its population did not support war) declared war by itself on Germany (because France refused to go to war over Czecheslovakia), Germany conquers the Czechs easily and quickly, and then Britain does what? They have no land border with Germany, their bombers are the time are sitting ducks to German fighters and flak, and navies don't win land wars.

    So I ask again, what option did Chamberlain have?
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    According to Adolph Hitler, if Neville Chamberlain showed any spine whatsoever, he would have never invaded Czechoslovakia and presumably, close to 100 million lives would not have been lost during World War II. Hitler said of Chamberlain, "We have met our enemies and they are worms." What other options did Chamberlain have? Anything else that didn't show complete and abject capitulation.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Hitler would have been killed by his own people had he backed down like that. More to the point, the Abwehr knew France was unwilling to go to war over Czecheslovakia, so they knew Britain would be on their own, and Britain couldn't beat Germany by themselves.
     
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    I think Obama and Cheney should go hunting together.Take W. with them, too.
     
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    Appeasement, which obviously is what this Administration is doing.
     
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    Germany was going to get Czecheslovakia regardless, what option did Chamberlain have besides moving the war a little further down the road when he'd actually have France to back him up?
     
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    [video=youtube;Cwqh4wQPoQk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk[/video]

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    The exact same option they took after hitler and stalin invaded poland, a few weeks later....
     
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    Yup - Cheney is ALWAYS wrong as are those who defend him.
     
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    You mean, nearly a year later with a new French government that was actually willing to go to war?
     
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    Can you explain how they "let" it happen? They were trying to track the terrorists, however had no concrete intel on a location. What were they supposed to do? Shut down every airport, train, or bus station until they found them? All the intel suggested was a public transit.

    Do you realize what that would mean?

    Please post rationally or you won't be taken seriously.
     
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    Its not like they had a choice.....

    [video=youtube;U8gMBZCM--Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8gMBZCM--Q[/video]
     
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    France gave Germany the ability to invade them by letting politics dictate their deployment in Belgium.

    Furthermore, are you admitting that you were wrong in your claim?
     
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    Yup, can you explain why the equally stupid democrats said the exact same things?
    [video=youtube;Cwqh4wQPoQk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk[/video]
     
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    Plus point hat they had not military power to stop Hitler at time of Munich 1938 ... there were for example in RAF no Spitfires! Some few Hurricanes and mostly obsolete Gloster Gladiators bi-planes!
     
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    we have gone through this about 100 times - Democrats made those quotes BEFORE Hans Blix made his disclosures

    your right wing heroes continued to make their claims AFTER he did so - see Downing Street Memo
     
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    what about the weeks? sure whatever.

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    [video=youtube;UIPSvIz9NDs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIPSvIz9NDs[/video]
     
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    You're totally ignorant of 911. The pilots were in the country and training before Bush was elected. They came in when Clinton was pres. They probably thought Gore was going to win and didn't need to fear retaliation. So the Boston Marathon bombing was Obama's fault? I don't think so.
     
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    Thats hindsight talking.....

    At the time no one believed hitler could smash france in 6 weeks.
     
  20. Mr_Truth

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    Tony Blair was voted out of office by the British after the Downing Street Memo was disclosed as that country's media made it into an issue.

    By contrast, the media is completely controlled by the treasonous far right and it refused to make it an issue. Otherwise, Bush would have been impeached and removed from office for his treason.
     
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    How about your claim that going to war was an option in 1938? Chamberlain did not have support for war at home, the Leftwing government in France utterly refused to go to war over Czecheslovakia, Britain had no capability of beating Germany on their own and definitely no capability to stop Germany from taking out the Czechs. So what would going to war have accomplished?

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    France was unwilling to go to war in 1938.
     
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    Youre speaking from hindsight. Clearly appeasement served no purpose, and the Czechs were served up to hitler on a plate.....
     
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    lol..... wtf? Bush had a 92% approval rating.....

    [video=youtube;DkS9y5t0tR0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0[/video]
     
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    They even didn’t believe after Hitler overran Poland in 2 weeks and understood nothing and were still in overaged military thinking of WW-1 with the phrase that Poland isn’t France jabbering …

    but if this hindsight, please explain why right after Munich 1938, Great Britain and France raised military budget drastic and started modernization and up-arming!
    So in my opinion is conclusion that they know it's just only a postponement of the inevitable = war and so they started the up-arming to be prepared!
     

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