Chicago releases dash-cam video of fatal shooting after cop charged with murder

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  1. highntight

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    i think your right people are opening there eyes to what is real
     
  2. truth and justice

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    He should go to prison for a long time, but being charged with first degree murder risks him given a verdict of not proven guilty. There are people on this thread maintaining that he shot in self defence! That would be enough to release him, presuming your courts have the same laws regarding guilty and not guilty as we have in the UK.
     
  3. justonemorevoice

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    Well, considering the fact that the trigger happy cop erased that option.....
     
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    Bravo!
     
  5. GeddonM3

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    Nope I'm just saying w straight truth, sorry you don't like it. Your idea that a cops should be perfect is beyond any rational thought. You pretend like you can handle their situation better, so get your ass out there and show us that you have nerves of steel.

    Do I believe we should do more to prevent bad cops, yes but even I know we will not catch them all at the beginning, some wi slip through. And then I also understand that whole "we are just human" thing and not all cops are going to act the same under the same situation.

    And what is the difference between putting down a feral animal that is showing aggression and could seriously injure someone, and then putting down a psycho high on drugs brandishing a weapon? In my eyes nothing, both are threats and should be dealt with accordingly. I'd rather this stupid druggy die than him getting the chance to hurt or kill someone else, and then wasting tax dollars feeding him and putting him through trial.

    But the only reason this is even an issue is because the guy was black, if he was white or brown or Asian this would not even be mentioned.

    And BLM are not patriots. They are a sham group who supports thugs, killing cops, killing white people, and burning cities down. BLM is nothing but the black KKK.
     
  6. GeddonM3

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    I prefer they would have put 200 bullets into the body off the PP shooter. I don't want our tax dollars supporting a psycho through trial and feeding him and they will find him insane and he will spend the rest of his days in an asylum and we foot the bill. Sorry but you will not find me to be a hypocrite when it comes to violent criminals, in my eyes they should all be shot and killed on the spot. Screw their trials and rights, those should be out the door the moment they decided to harm innocent people.

    But on the same note, the idiot with a knife was not a hostage situation, nobody was around to be hit by bullets. The threat was easier to handle.

    The PP shooter had innocent civilians as hostages, do you want the cops to go in guns blazing and kill more innocent people? Lease tell me you are not so blind to see the huge differences in the situation.

    But still, after they caught the psycho I would have rather them take him outside and put a bullet in his head. Look at what he did, he doesn't need a trial or 3 hots and a cot. Screw him.
     
  7. rkhames

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    The suspect was spun around by the first round(s). Imediately after being spun around, he went straight to the ground. There was no motion to throw the knife.

    Ask yourself this. If the suspect was attempting to throw the knife, why didn't the other officers open fire? Do you actually think they all froze? This was a bad shoot, and the officer needs to be behind bars.

    If you want to hold the race-baiters accountable when they call for dead cops in response to justifiable shootings, you have to admit when an officer involved shooting is not justified. Otherwise you need to join the liberals with there two sets of rules policy.
     
  8. snakestretcher

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    No, he wasn't anywhere near the cop. Which video were you watching?

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    There was no threat. Why didn't the cop tase the guy?
     
  9. MrNick

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    You ever encountered a Chicago cop?

    There are only a couple dozen people protesting this for a reason, because this is exactly what happens when you run around with a knife with guns pointed at you in Chicago...

    That and this isn't at all unusual, and not many buy the racial aspect of the shooting around here...

    The nation and media has done it's best to make this a racial issue but everyone know's around here it's not... It's just a Chicago cop being a Chicago cop and a whack job committing suicide by cop.. It's not the first time or last time this crap is going to happen, perhaps even this year...

    This is why only a few dozen people (at best) are protesting...
     
  10. TrackerSam

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    I think you're wrong. The cop is not a judge. We haven't as a society, gotten to the Judge Dredd era yet. After the first shot there was no longer any threat, if there ever was one. At that point he executed this guy.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    If you have watched many times then why do you still make the unsupported claims. He is dancing down the street, the officers pull their weapons, then he suddenly spins around at 1:34 to his right, the knife is in his right hand, he presents his back to the officers and they open fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow27I3yTFKc
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    You to submit to the arrest first don't you. What right did he have to commit crimes with a deadly weapon and not submit to the arrest?

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    Wrong again, all he had to do was stop, drop the weapon and get on the ground.
     
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    The cop will face a jury. Justice has been done.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    He submitted to the arrest I don't know what you are missing here. They were TRYING TO KILL HIM, then he gave up and submitted to the arrest.
     
  15. jones343434

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    Did you say blm is kkk...do you know the Kkk hung thousands people haha...I'm rolling on the ground laughing at this comment. Do you know any history of racism... Can white people be more a joke in this world.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    The video clearly shows he is walking in front of the officers and that he spun around with the knife in hand and anytime the suspect has a weapon in hand it is an imminent threat. The shooting was justified, the continued shots after the suspect was dropped are problematic. And it is also the duty or the police to stop a person who is posing a threat to the community with a deadly weapon even if they are trying to escape capture.
     
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    Well which is it? Is he no where near them or did they need to taze him? He already attacked a police care with officers inside, now he is running down a highway brandishing a knife ( a small one but still a knife), and so polluted out of his mind on drugs that he is nothing but a threat to anybody who comes within a few yards of him. Shooting him and removing the threat wasn't the problem. Shooting him so many times is what has made this idiocy a sideshow for the race baiters.

    Could they have handled it different? Probably. Could the guy have handled it differently so that he didn't place the officers in a position that required something be done? Absolutely. He (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up, and he paid with his life. At best the officer should be given the benefit of doubt, and at least be suspended, at worst a manslaughter charge for excessive measures might be appropriate, but that cop didn't go out that night looking for a black young man to kill. All the balls were set in motion by the reckless actions of one person, and for those actions he paid dearly.
     
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    Then you, sir, should move to North Korea, where such incidents are likely to occur, and no rights as described by our constitution exist.

    Now, if that's the case, allow me to remind you that any time you invoke any "rights" or "constitutional" arguments, I will very happly refer to this post to show the hipocrisy of such statements.

    What you suggest goes so far beyond fascism the Duce is rolling over in his grave.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    Anytime a suspect has a deadly weapon in their hand it is a threat and he was a moving target, too far away and wearing a heavy hoodie.
     
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    He shot him 16 times. The first round took him down and then was shot 15 more times. I think that cop did set out to shoot someone.

    I've watched the video several times and he never lunged at the police.

    Preckwinkle was especially harsh in her criticism of McCarthy on Monday, noting that the morning after McDonald’s death, the Police Department issued a statement that he had lunged at police with a knife. However, the video of the shooting showed McDonald was walking away from officers when he was shot, and was not lunging or making any sudden moves.

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/01/reports-garry-mccarthy-out-as-chicago-police-superintendent/
     
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    No, the shooting is not justified. Absolute fascist BS. Was the knife an iminent threat? Was it going to morph into a gear and cog machine that spewed death from a distance? Why do my tax dollars go into paying for an unelected batch of fascist cops who cannot take down a single teenager with a knife? And then, why do my tax dollars go into paying the imminent settlement that the family is justly due for the cops who fire ridiculously into this kid?

    What a joke. The entire thing is problematic. The police need to be replaced. This is absolutely a joke, that anyone can say shooting someone with a knife is justified, but in the same breath ignore that a cop murdering lunatic at a planned parenthood is able to be taken into custody.

    Get out of here with your fascist loving freedom hating constitution soiling charlatan bs.
     
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    He presented his back? Did he say to the police "here is my back"?
    Did he spin around before "present(ing) his back"?
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    You can rant all you want but a criminal suspect with a deadly weapon in the hand poses an imminent threat.......PERIOD.

    Nope just the continued shooting while the suspect was on the ground although the first two as he spun around made have been fatal shoots, had it not been for the continued shooting this would never have been an issue.

    ROFL and what are you going to replace them with........been watching too many Robocop movies? And yes shooting someone welding a knife and refusing the orders of the police who then makes a threatening move is perfectly justified.

    It was a shootout, the police WERE TRYING TO KILL HIM, and then he gave up and submitted to the arrest. Had they a clear shot at him he would be dead too.

    Try using facts and reality instead of hyperbole.

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    Yes go study up on common language.

    d. To turn or position in the direction of another: presented his face to the camera.
     
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    He was dancing around like a fool and swinging a knife, and he had already broken a window out of a cop car and was acting the fool hopped up on who knows what at that point. The guns and tazers they use are not normally effective on anyone drugging out, and they are trained to empty their guns. I also saw the video and I couldn't tell you what he was doing when he was spinning around and brandishing the knife. I also noticed it appeared like the first shot dropped him on his side, so kind of curious as to how he was shot in the back twice, since his back was never to the officer after he hit the ground? In any case you had to watch the video several times, the officers didn't have that luxury in real time.
     
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    Ten feet, apparently, when the cop unloaded on him. Is that out of range for a taser?
     

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