Chick-fil-A location at DIA paused after Denver Council cites chain's LGBT stances

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    More children are being raised by two closely related adults than are being raised by gay couples. How is giving those families made up of two closely related adults, the government benefits of marriage, disgusting? ANYTHING other than ancient prohibitions in Genesis to support your assertions upon?
    I frequently use the example of the single mother and grandmother down the street who have been together for over a decade to provide and care for their children/grandchildren. Probably the best behaved kids on the entire street. A beautiful family denied the benefits that are now available to two 18 yr old gay guys, young dumb and full of cum. How is comparing these two examples "disgusting" and how it "just not there"? That doesn't even make sense.
    Instead of this dance of yours for days now, why not simply answer yes or no to the questions?
     
  2. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Claiming that his question "is just like saying that homosexuality is just like pedophilia", doesn't answer the question. Seems to be some rationale for why you don't want to answer his question. Fine, don't try pretending you've answered the questions when in fact you simply don't want to answer the questions.
     
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    no, you repeated that CFA CEO hates gays and then you avoided answering



    Yes or no

    do you support incest-marriage?



    Yes or no

    Do you hate people who want to marry their sibling?



    quit side-stepping, backpeddling, and everything else you have done for the past 20 pages.


    These are 2 very direct questions. Yes, or no.
     
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    reality1 Well-Known Member

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    It is obvious to those of us following this thread you have won this debate handily with notme.
     
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    Comparing homosexuals with incest is disgusting.
     
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    It does. You just don't like the reply and demand an other point of view. You're not getting an other point of view. It's just acting retarded like the police officer in that 1950's tv commercial saying homosexuals are pedophiles. It's a comparison that is sick, flawwed and part of a hate campaign. And such a comparison is now being made suggesting that homosexuals is like an incest relationship. It's like hearing a fanatic racist saying an interracial marriage is like bestiality.
     
  7. notme

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    I already answered this question that the comparison of claiming incest is just like homosexuality, is a just as flawed and sick as saying homosexuality is just like pedophilia. Such comparisons are made by hate groups. Hate groups just like them fanatic racist saying interracial marriage is like bestiality.

    How about you respond to this for a change....
     
  8. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Thats nice. He didnt make any such comparison. Why not answer the question instead of trying to explain why you dont want to answer it, and then pretending as if you had
     
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    No it doesnt. An answer would include a yes or a know, or at least contain an implication as to which the answer would be.

    A marriage, between two closely related people in some state laws is referred to as an "incestuous marriage". "Incest" is sex between two closely related people. Thats against the law in 49 states. You both should take that word out of the discussion. A relevant comparison would be between two gay guys who want to marry and two closely related people who wish to marry. NOT two people who want to have sex together. The single mother and grandmother down the street, joined together for over a decade to provide and care for their children/grandchildren together, who have NEVER had sex with each other, would be a more relevant example. They both have mutual medical powers of attorney with each other. Mutual provisions in their wills. Grandmother has adopted her grandchilren. Same thing gay couples did before they could legally marry. Obviously you must hate them. Bigot.
     
  10. JavisBeason

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    while I agree with that... that there can be more reasons than just sex involved in a marriage.... one can't eliminate a brother and sister marrying BECAUSE they are in love and plan to have sex (if they hadn't already)

    but I digress, because, as you point out, that's not important, since all I'm asking about is

    does not.me support marraige between closely related people (no matter the reason, even if it includes the possibility of sex)


    if he doesn't support it, does he hate the closely related people who want to get married?



    If his answer is

    no

    no



    then now he has to admit that CFA CEO could, in fact, not support SSM but still not HATE gay people
     
  11. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    By loving, serving and hiring people of all colors, faiths, and sexual lifestyles.

    If only everyone discriminated like Dan Cathy.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The entire legal argument to extend marriage to homosexuals, is based upon that bologna. Marriage limited to men and women because only men and women have the potential of procreation is perfectly constitutional. While marriage limited to men and women in order to "disparage and injure" homosexuals is what was declared to be unconstitutional.
     
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    He is making it. There is no other reason to ask that question.

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    It does to me.
     
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    Last time I checked,.. it's a franchise. So the owner of the company is not part of the hiring of people.
    He still is part of using the money he earns from that franchise to try and install his sharia kind of laws in the country.
     
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    I have responded. It is javis who refuses to respond to what I wrote. That is exceptionally clear. And he refuses to respond to it, because it will make him look like a backward retard from the 1950's who claim pedophiles are like homosexuals with their flawed comparisons / interracial is like bestiality according to flawed comparisons of the exceptionally racists. It is without any doubt that incest and homosexuality have nothing in common.
     
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    Marriages limitation to men and women is based upon biology, not religion. Men and women becoming husbands and wives becoming fathers and mothers to their children. Marriage is limited to men and women for the same reason this statute and similar ones in all 50 states are limited to men and women. Biology.

    160.204. PRESUMPTION OF PATERNITY. (a) A man is
    presumed to be the father of a child if:
    (1) he is married to the mother of the child and the
    child is born during the marriage;
     
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    Yes, its amazing how many times you can respond to a question without ever answering the question. And marriage between two closely related people and marriage between two gay people DOES have something in common. MARRIAGE. You just selectively choose which old testament prohibitions you wish to retain and which you wish to discard.
     
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    Sure there is. You support while he opposes two gay guys marrying and you oppose two closely related people from marrying. You claim he opposes gay marriage because of hatred of gays, and yet, you cant supply any justification for your opposition to two closely related people marrying. Until you do we can assume you hate closely related people who would wish to marry, USING YOUR LOGIC.
    He is not comparing homosexuality to incest, YOU ARE. He is comparing marriage between two people of the same sex and marriage between two people who are closely related. Has nothing to do with sex of any variety. If marriage was extended to two closely related people, the criminal laws that prohibit sexual relations between two closely related people in 49 states would remain and no one is suggesting two closely related people engage in incestuous sexual relations or that the prohibitions be removed.

    Odd that all the supporters of gay marriage so vehemently argue that marriage has nothing to do with procreation and yet so vehemently argue that it is instead all about sex. Marriages between men and women haven't been regulated for thousands of years because they might have an orgasm and has instead been so regulated because they might produce a child. Orgasms don't give rise to any need for government to even be involved while procreation does. And if instead marriage is to now be about providing "respect and dignity" to couples, it should be made available to any two consenting adults who desire governments respect and dignity. And I would argue that government has now lost any justification they had for discriminating between married and unmarried couples.
     
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    Companies don't start out as franchises. The Cathys ran restaurants in the past... and currently oversee the hiring for CFA corporate. Are gays refused employment?


    Huh... ?!


    Does he?
    He doesn't donate to those groups anymore, hasn't for a couple years. Why do you keep lying and saying he does?
    What law is he affecting?
    How can one avoid reality so successfully and repeatedly make the same false claims about someone and still think they have any cred at all?

    Just curious.

    Every time you respond you leave more questions than answers.
     
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    question 1 yes or no.
    question 2 yes or no.

    don't tell me why you won't answer it and then say that you did.
     
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    Do you approve of interfamiliar marriages? Simple question. Answer it.
     
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    Denver council OKs Chick-fil-A at DIA, preservation law changes
    Concession deal for fast-food chain approved after controversy over same-sex marriage opposition
    The Denver City Council on Monday approved a controversial Chick-fil-A lease at the airport and changes to the affordable housing preservation ordinance.

    Voting 9-1, the council adopted a resolution approving a concession agreement with Concessions International and Delarosa Restaurant Concepts to operate the fast-food chain in Denver International Airport's Concourse B.

    In committee, some members had raised questions about Chick-fil-A's political activity, including an executive's comments opposing same-sex marriage on religious grounds, before approving the lease.

    Councilwoman Debbie Ortega voted no, citing the chain's closure on Sundays, when DIA is busy. Councilman Rafael Espinoza abstained.

    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28812685/denver-council-oks-chick-fil-at-dia-preservation

    It's all over except for the undie bunching. Next.
     
  23. notme

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    Irrelevant.

    That is the entire problem

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    I responded. That you do not like how I responded to it, is obvious.
    That you refuse to respond to what I wrote is where you have ended the discussion.
     
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    It is without any doubt that incest and homosexuality have nothing in common. Backward retards from the 1950's claimed pedophiles are like homosexuals with their flawed comparisons / interracial is like bestiality according to flawed comparisons of the exceptionally racists. This is not any different than fanatic haters making a new flawed comparison.
     
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    see, the "closed on sundays" is a legit concern.... it's just too bad the council wanted to make this a political battle and try to attack CFA because of the owner's beliefs.


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