Chilean presidential candidate calls Israel ‘a threat to world peace’

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  1. alexa

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    except it is much more likely that they only abandoned the Jewish religion. Genetics show that most Palestinians have links to all the different groups of Jews and stronger links than they have together. Therefore it looks likely that European Jews pinched the homeland of the ancient Jews.

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-are-descendants-of-jews/

    By that research the Palestinians are only 4.5% descended from Arabs. That article suggest they are closest to Ashkenazi Jews ...got a feeling that may be a bit of wishful thinking. In the research I saw before Ashkenazi seemed to have the least relationship to other Jewish groups. Oh I think I can remember what it was. I think Ashkenazi had a stronger link to the Palestinians than to any other Jewish Group.

    Then there is this
    Israeli Historian: Palestinians Are Biological Descendants of Bible’s Jews

    or this


    https://www.quora.com/Are-Palestinians-descendents-of-ancient-hebrews

    and not by any extent least this



    https://soundcloud.com/moderaterebelsradio/episode-9-zionism-anti-semitism-joseph-massad

    Basically it looks unsurprisingly that Palestinians are probably the closest genetic relative to the ancient Jews. God is not going to be pleased with Christian Zionists. I suspect there will be no rapture.

    I had real problems trying to get these links to stay separate. Hope at least all are available now.
     
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    The deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was an additional "False Flag" attack like the Lavon Affair. That's why the IAF initially used unmarked planes so the US would think that the Egyptians initiated the attack and the US would attack Egypt, again like the failed Lavon Affair.
    Another war crime in addition to the use of unmarked planes was IAF's strafing life rafts in an attempt to leave no witnesses.(1)
    For more information as to the motive, please see "Operation Cyanide"(2)


    (1)"Commonly Asked Questions about the USS Liberty"
    Prepared by the Independent Commission of Inquiry


    http://ifamericaknew.org/us_ints/ul-qa.html

    EXCERPT "After the attack was thought to have ended, three life rafts were lowered into the water to rescue the most seriously wounded. The Israeli torpedo boats returned and machine-gunned these life rafts at close range."CONTINUED


    (2) "USS Liberty: Operation Cyanide: Russians to the rescue"

    https://sites.google.com/site/onedemocraticstatesite/archives/uss-liberty-operation-cyanide

    EXCERPT "The top-secret plan was known as Operation Cyanide and was intended to result in the sinking of the Liberty with all hands, to be blamed on Egypt and exploited to permit the bombing of Cairo and the entry of the United States into the war on Israel’s side. The Soviet Union’s relationships with Arab countries would have been damaged and perhaps cut, with America and Israel seizing control of all Mid-East oil production. Israel’s borders would have expanded from the Nile to the Euphrates Rivers. "CONTINUED
     
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    You are oozing with win. (In bold)
     
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    Israel is NOT only fighting Hamas. This is a bunch of crap. They are fighting terrorists from Palestine (not just hamas), Iranian proxies, Syrians, Egyptian terrorists, and countless others.
     
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    Cross yourself :roflol:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Undoubtedly :roflol:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And this is why it is vital for United States to support Israel any which way it can. If Israel is left to fend for itself without military and economic support from United States, first idiot Arab country trying something funny with Israel, will get a nuke lobbed up its stupid ass.
     
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    You don't seem able to wrap your brain around this simple question:
    Which is the greater number: 34 or 26.

    The Israelis intentionally massacred 34 Americans with the intent to massacre them all by strafing the life rafts of the USS Liberty.

    Meanwhile:

    According to an Israeli intelligence source, 26 Israelis have been killed by ALL Hamas rockets EVER(1)


    The only way in which the Israelis are "fighting Iranian proxies" is by their support of ISIS(2) & the barbaric Syrian Rebels(3) in an OFFENSIVE attempt to depose Assad.

    When I was in the Army (Airborne), we didn't have time or the inclination to spend hours shilling for a foreign government responsible for the intentional massacre of OUR fellow American G.I.s.

    Is "Shilling for Israel" a new M.O.S.?


    (1)"Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks"

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-propaganda-the-numbers-behind-the-rocket-attacks/

    EXCERPTS "This is corroborated by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC),

    Below is a list of all the fatalities of rocket and mortar attacks fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel in the entire history of these attacks. Throughout the years of rocket attacks into Israel, a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.

    For 2008, it is unknown how the IDF transformed eight fatalities into fifteen.

    After a full year of no Israelis being killed by rocket fire from Gaza, Israel had to invade Gaza, prompting the new killing of three Israeli civilians, which provides retroactive justification for the prompting itself.

    Still, this is part of the story. As much as the IDF loves to play with numbers, there are certain numbers that it avoids, such as the numbers behind the artillery fire leveled against Gaza, which rivals the number of rocket attacks from Gaza."CONTINUED



    (2) "Israeli Defense Minister Confirms Israel Backing Of ISIS in Syria"

    https://geopolitics.co/2017/04/27/israeli-defense-minister-confirms-israel-backing-of-isis-in-syria/

    EXCERPT "Washington created and supports ISIS, along with other anti-government terrorists in Syria and elsewhere. NATO, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other regional rogue states supply them with weapons and other material support.

    So does Israel. In June 2015, the Times of Israel quoted former Israeli defense minister Moshe Ya’alon, saying

    “(W)e’ve assisted (anti-government terrorist groups in Syria on) two conditions. That they don’t get too close to (Israel’s) border, and…don’t touch the Druze.”CONTINUED

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    (3) "Israel acknowledges it is helping Syrian rebel fighters"

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

    EXCERPT "Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said Monday that Israel has been providing aid to Syrian rebels, thus keeping the Druze in Syria out of immediate danger. Israeli officials have previously balked at confirming on the record that the country has been helping forces that are fighting to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Assad."CONTINUED
     
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    Basically a true to form US would do an Iraq on Israel if it believed this - unless of course something else was stopping them. No I am wrong it is too late once they have the nukes which is why Israel is wetting herself about Iran who so far has not decided to build them.
     
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    But of course something else is stopping them. With all their shortcomings (no country is perfect, remember this) Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, and thus deserves being supported to the fullest. Simple as that.
     
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    Yes, that is very true. I mean, you look at a situation and try not to make hasty decisions so you study the evidence, listen to both sides (judging by the logic and what you already know about the source), make a tentative decision and then try your best to disprove your own conviction. What is left is "what it is".
     
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    I didn't know that. Is it true?
     
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    Israel proper is extreme right wing bordering fascism. What Israelis like now to say is Israel that is the West Bank is as far from democratic as it can be and as Israelis live there it kind of makes talk of Israel in any way being democratic a bit suspect.

    Tunisia is democratic I think.
     
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    Yes:
    34 ZION 47 taught at a secret base near Eilat.
     
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    I bet, you' also did not know that as of 2017, 892 Nobel prizes were awarded to 892 individuals, of whom 201 or 22.5% went to Jews although the total Jewish population comprises less than 0.2% of the World population.This means the percentage of Jewish Nobel laureates at least 11250% above average!

    Muslims? 12 Nobels, including one to Yasser Arafat. So, if there's 100 Muslims in the world for each Jew, Muslims seems to be underperforming to the Jews in the Nobel prize department (under average) by at least... uhm... by ****ing infinity :love:
     
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    According to the Israeli intelligence source I cited, (Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC)(1) 26 Israelis have been killed while 34 Americans were killed aboard the USS Liberty.

    IDF sources, on the other hand, counted things like "trauma", death by nearby ax etc as "casualties".

    I was surprised too but it makes you wonder what else IDF & their Hasbara hirelings distort.



    (1) "Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks"

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-propaganda-the-numbers-behind-the-rocket-attacks/

    EXCERPTS "This is corroborated by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC),

    Below is a list of all the fatalities of rocket and mortar attacks fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel in the entire history of these attacks. Throughout the years of rocket attacks into Israel, a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.

    For 2008, it is unknown how the IDF transformed eight fatalities into fifteen.

    After a full year of no Israelis being killed by rocket fire from Gaza, Israel had to invade Gaza, prompting the new killing of three Israeli civilians, which provides retroactive justification for the prompting itself.

    Still, this is part of the story. As much as the IDF loves to play with numbers, there are certain numbers that it avoids, such as the numbers behind the artillery fire leveled against Gaza, which rivals the number of rocket attacks from Gaza."CONTINUED
     
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    Ah... suddenly it's not all Arabs but 1 little Arab nation, who already buried the hatched on it.
     
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    Ah... you don't say? One little Arab nation who already buried the hatchet did more harm to Palestinians than mighty Israel? What about Saudis, Iraqis, Lebanese and especially hated brothers Jordanians, whom Palestinians tried to steal their country from and deposit their host the King, and failed? Nice friendly lot them Palestinians; no wonder everyone' giving it to them :machinegun:
     
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    Thats what Arafat ones said, doesn't needs to be true. And they buried the hatchet
     
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    There actually is a multi million dollar industry in Israel & the US that funds "Hasbara Fellowships", "Hasbara Scholarships", a "Hasbara Handbook"(1) and ways to get paid shilling for Israel(2)
    Additionally, "Israel advocates" are instructed on ways to manipulate Wikipedia for example(3).

    Thats why I don't trust Wikipedia when it comes to impartial information relating to Mid East events or subjects sensitive to Jews.

    I'm not suggesting that every Israel advocate is a paid, trained & scripted Hasbara shill but you'd have to be very naive to ignore the fact that they exist in large numbers.



    (1)"The Israel Project’s Secret Hasbara Handbook Exposed"
    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2009/07/10/the-israel-projects-secret-hasbara-handbook-exposed/

    EXCERPT Douglas Bloomfield and Newsweek have done pretty close to that against the Israel lobby. Specifically, they’ve exposed a secret hasbara handbook written for The Israel Project by star Republican marketer, Frank Luntz. The oddly-named Global Language Dictionary (pdf) is a veritable goldmine of arguments, strategy, tactics. At 116 pages, it’s not for the faint of heart. But anyone who wants to get inside the head of the Israel lobby must read this document.
    The first thing we learn is that this passage, as with everything else printed in the handbook, is empty meaningless drivel. It’s a perfect example of political three-card monty in which there appears to be a card which isn’t there at all. It’s all a sham. There is no substance. The rhetoric here is even worse than that offered by spokespeople like Mark Regev on behalf of the Israeli government."CONTINUED



    (2) “Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook”
    https://electronicintifada.net/blog...ts-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook”

    EXCERPT “The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.
    NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”
    The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.
    This active recruitment of Israeli students is part of Israel’s orchestrated effort to suppress the Palestinian solidarity movement under the guise of combating “delegitimization” of Israel and anti-Semitism.”CONTINUED


    (3) "Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups"
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

    EXCERPT "Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in "Zionist editing" for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

    Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site."CONTINUED

    AND:

    Wikipedia Editing Courses Launched by Zionist Propaganda Machine
     
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    There is a bigger arab nation which is going to have a go at finishing the destruction of Palestine. No prises for guessing who it is.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/saudi-israeli-normalisation-dangerous-171119083143078.html

    goes on to speak about the US not renewing the licence on the PLO office in the US - something which the Palestinians have said will result in the end of their communication with the US.

    On one level it looks exceedingly good for you. On another Al Jazeera believes it could lose the Saudis their position in the Muslim world. The importance of that being that the Sauds feel in competition with Iran for who is the ruler of the Muslim world - why they want Iran snuffed. However if the Sauds make this move against the Palestinians they could give that to Iran.

    The Saud's also appear to be losing American support

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...spite-shared-concern-about-iran-idUSKBN1DB0TY

    Interesting if dangerous times.
     
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    Your question-asking skills are deficient. How am I supposed to know, I'm not Israeli and not a murderer.

    You need to ask Bibi about that, but don't expect a straight answer from that guy.
     
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    Chilean presidential candidate calls Israel ‘a threat to world peace’.....


    Message to the Chilean Wannabe.

    Don't worry.....you and your country could never be a threat to World Peace. First off you don't have the brain capacity to pull that off. Not even with all the Chili boiling.

    2nd...your uhm country is hardly worth noticing. Now go sit down and ST#U
     
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    With all the advances Jews are making in science, the arts, etc. it's curious why, according to Alexa in post 163, more Muslims don't become 'extreme right wing' and promote a broader education among those victims of an Islamic education. Perhaps then they'd also be able to contribute something worthwhile to the world.
     
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    Well it is not just Chili who thinks this.


    EU poll: “Israel poses biggest threat to world peace

    that one is in 2003 but the EU was still at it last year

    http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4441475&ct=5851265


     
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