Chinese Navy Kicks Out US warship From Territorial Waters

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  1. Poohbear

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    Um... no, a big no.
    Many of the great pandemics rose in China, including the Black Death which decimated
    nearly half of Europe.
     
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    For starters the U.S. didn't murder either of them.
     
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    So...?
     
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    The bottom line is, yes, the U.S. murdered both of them, plus ...... Osama bin Laden.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would be a reflection of the Economist's self serving leanings, as well as it's affinities and its interests. I would feel the same if it was Rockefeller, so let's not make this an antisemitism thing.

    Look, I can't remember what it was, but I did read something in the Economist once that was a blatant lie. After that I wouldn't go near it with a ten foot pole.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US created the situation for Ghadaffi's death, after having promised Medvedev that he wouldn't be killed. This is why he lost the election to Vladimir Putin - who told him to veto Washington's 'supposed' no fly zone in the UN.

    The no fly zone turned into the usual Pentagon bombing spree, which gave the terrorists the opportunity to capture him, as well as to kill and enslave the black Africans who were given jobs by Ghadaffi.

     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    duplicate
     
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    Yes. "Creating the situation for Ghadaffi's (or Saddam Hussein's) death" is equivalent to putting out a contract on someone's life.
     
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    Wrong! The Black Death, or rather the Bubonic plague broke out in the Mongol camp in Crimea while fighting the Genovese. The Mongols threw the diseased bodies into the Genovese camp and their ships brought it to Constantinople, Alexandria and then Europe.

    It's caused by infected rats, and it's passed on to humans by fleas. The Corona virus, appears to be by all accounts a bio weapon, and might have been developed in one of our bio labs. We have them in countries surrounding Russia - such as Kazachstan, Ukraine and Georgia. Considering our recent history and disregard towards humanity and international law, it's only natural that we would be looked on as the main culprit by China, or by any nation not under the influence of our propaganda networks.

    If we are the main culprit, which is something we don't know, and if it was done to hurt China's economy, since we do consider them a threat to our world dominance, then the idea that we would blame China for not containing it within their borders, and allowing it destroy other nations would be a callousness beyond belief.
     
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    A strong possibility.

    ... for example.

    Can't blame anyone for suspecting the U.S.


    For sure. It's like farting then giving someone else a nasty look.
     
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    Prove it. By citing an unbiased source. If you don't like The Economist try the Wall Street Journal.
     
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    Number 1, Corona isn't a bio weapon
    Number 2, Corona virus first appeared in Wuhan Province in China.
    Number 3, claims the Russians or America, whoever, devised this
    virus have no regards for the fact that all nations have been decimated
    by it.
     
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    Neither is "unbiased".
     
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    A distinct lack of motivated conviction.
    First officially "acknowledged" doesn't mean it originated on that day or in that place ... but of course by leaving out any motivated conviction in your above statement then you won't appreciate such an important point.
    Proves absolutely nothing at all and again, no motivated conviction. According to your deductive reasoning, the U.S. never sprayed Agent Orange in Vietnam, never tested atomic bombs in Nevada, didn't use depleted uranium (dirty) weapons in Irak, and never conducted secret human experiments on Amerian soldiers for the simple reason that Americans were decimated because of it.
     
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    Explain why you think the Wall Street Journal is biased?
     
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    Agent Orange is a defoliant - it can't effect much outside of its spray zone.
    Atom testing isn't going to blow your own house down.
    Depleted uranium munition isn't going to kill anyone it wasn't aimed at.
    (why don't you mention any other nation's armaments?)
    But viruses have gone around the world - the only nation you could suspect
    of creating such a sophisticated virus would be nations with advanced bio-
    tech, have already sealed their own borders and have developed the antidote.
    Corvid 19 came from animals - it's a mutation like AIDS is.
     
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    So when Britain struck Argentinian forces in the Falklands it was Thatcher's fault
    that Galtieri lost his presidency?
    And Israel was responsible for the premature death of Egypt's Nasser after the
    Six Day War?
     
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    If they build their war planes anything like they build cheap crock pots (mine started on fire), we've got nothing to worry about.
     
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    ~ Of course. This is what the communist China government does. They poison their citizens with false propaganda about "evil" America. Just like Hitler ! Fortunately many are also getting factual information that slips into China - sometimes from Taiwan.
     
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    What does it have to do with U.S. putting a price on Ghadafi's and Saddam Hussein's head? Those two were murdered by the U.S. plain and simple.

    All three were created in American laboratories and were used for the purpose of death and destruction.

    * Agent Orange was sprayed upon Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laotian populations (and American soldiers) causing death and chromosome destruction that is still taking lives to this day.

    *Atom testing was conducted with live, American human guinea pigs with full understanding of its consequences.

    * Depleted uranium munitions have killed untold numbers of Iraqi civilians, military personnel, and the American soldiers who used those weapons. The consequences of those weapons are (and were) well-known to U.S. officials.

    Because these were created by American laboratories. Duh.

    Viruses have been laboratory preserved, concocted, and mutated for the use in bio weaponry and there is no poof that Coronavirus is anything other than that. In addition to that, the bacterial infection called Syphilis was injected into innocent people by the U.S. Government in clandestine experiments up until 1972 for tentative use in weaponry .... so don't pretend.
     
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    Look forward to your proof on this. In the meanwhile there's this mystery why the kid with the AK47
    shot Ghadafi. after his arrest. became a hero to the Libyans.
    Agent Orange also saved many lives. The Communists operated from the jungles, coming out at
    night. Removing their cover stopped a lot of killings.
    Uranium bullets have a higher mass and can penetrate armor better. Worked well with Sadaams elite
    tank formations - the one which invaded Kuwait and Iran.
    AK47's came out of Russian laboratories. It is said this gun had more impact on insurgencies, rebellions,
    Jihadis movements and the like than any other. Read about the Russian undersea bomb? Designed to
    swamp coastal areas and kill millions of civilians.
     
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    There are things we just don't know about this virus.
    Are you saying some lab developed it without a way to protect
    themselves from it? No govt would do that. There's 100,000
    dead Americans here. If you can prove it this Chinese virus
    was made in the US then you need to get off this forum and go
    talk to people.
     
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    The Economist is a Saudi Muslim pro Abdallah the 2nd owned ... Who cares ?
     
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    Rupert Murdoch owns the WSJ. When that happened all the good writers bugged out, and I had to switch to the NYT.

    The Times and the Journal used to be in competition. Sometimes one would be clearly better, and then the other one would pick up the pace and take the lead.

    All that ended when Murdoch got his greasy mitts on it.

    Everyone has a bias, there is no getting around that. Even before Murdoch the senior editor wrote lots of crap 3rd rate editorials. And they were cheerleaders when Wall St started eating the economy.

    But there was maybe a decade when I bought it instead of the Times, because they were doing journalism most days of the quality you'd expect to see in a top notch monthly like SciAm.
     
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    I always read the New York Times even though it was liberal, because it was very informative. It was easy to pick out the facts from the slant. Suddenly though, there was only slant, and very little facts, but not only in the New York Times, but in all the main stream publications. And what was worse, they were all slanting the same way and leaving out the same facts.

    I went to Al Jazeera and it was fine for a while, but suddenly it was the same slant as the rest of the MSM. They were also leaving out the same things - so how did I know? Well first of all journalists should have differing opinions and not all follow the government line. I also went onto a Greek site which was not affiliated with the MSM, (the main ones are), and they were relaying incidents in Ukraine from people living there that were not being mentioned in any of the MSM.

    I also knew some Syrians who were praising Assad and how lovely the country was, and not only Christians. One worker even went back with his family before the fighting started because the way of life was so much better there. All these things went contrary to what we were being told here.

    As for the everyday news, I go to RT and Sputnik, and even though they give a conflicting view, they aren't that informative, so I go onto other sites - domestic and foreign, depending on what I'm looking for. As for the Economist, I loved it until I read something that was not true and it upset me. It's one thing to give an opinion, but to deliberately misrepresent facts?

    All this lying and deception is starting to back fire and its not only splitting up the EU and Britain, but our country too. The future does not look well.
     

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