Chris Steele admitted using posts by 'random individuals' on CNN website to back up Trump dossier

No crying over spilt milk.

 

Translation: Holy crud! A whole crop-load of upper level Obama era loyalists (both RINOs and their Leftist political allies) are in huge trouble and are only going to make the corrupt DNC and the mainstream media look even worse than usual when everything is said and done. Nice!

 

So you are OK with law enforcement using lies to obtain a warrant to tap your phone raid your house
you truly want to live in a police state

 

It died with Al Davis?

 

As long as "they" are in charge it's all good with them. If they don't have a problem with infanticide what makes you think they'd care about a police state?

 

That certainly appears to be the case.

 

No I think he is a member of this debate forum and I asked him two salient questions.

You want to take the them? Ego's a big boy and can handle himself quite well.

Then what is left? Why is there an investigation into this so-called Russian-Trump collusion? What is it's basis, the predicate crime?

 

Are you serious?

Steele admits he used posts from 'random individuals' on CNN website for Trump dossier

Steele used an "open source search" on the internet to fill out his dossier.

 

A government out of control

 

Interesting observation. Certainly would explain the never ending propaganda that, like this dossier pivot, is so blatantly obvious.

 

I think you missed my point.

The dossier is bullshit. Always has been. Yet, the "Get Trump" crowd has been pushing it as some piece of gospel. Hell, it was demonstrated it was used as a means to secure a FISA warrant.

Now that the truth about the Dossier is finally being exposed, the rabid left is trying to suggest the Dossier meant nothing.

What an absurd pivot, given how much ink and band width has been expended over the last 2+ years attempting to say the Dossier was part of some smoking gun of truth.

So, if the TDS crew wants to pretend they have some credibility, they need to get their act together. This pivot on the dossier is a really stupid effort.

 

Exactly.

This is hardly an "OMG!!" moment.

 

But he didn't just use it for the Clinton Campaign op-research...he sold it to the Obama's Justice Department, who then used it, in part to open an investigation, and get warrants. If it was limited to just the Clinton campaign, who never used it because they couldn't support it, then that would be fine.

 

Don’t get hysterical. He sold it? Proof?

 

He wasn’t paid by the Clintons and dnc? Or attempt to sell it to the press?

 

More to the point:

"The heavily redacted records show FBI payments to Steele as a Confidential Human Source (CHS) over an unknown period."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-...-payments-trump-dossier-author-steele-n897506

 

These guys are something else. I'm not sure civic friendship between Trump America and non-Trump America is possible. They speak of “defending democracy,” but what they really mean is defending the left-wing consensus against the popular will as it was expressed at the ballot box.

They aren't defending democracy, they are defending a privileged class from democracy.

And yes, first we got all the wild claims based on "former and current Administration officials" then finally loud crowing over an actual dossier. Everything we have said about all this has been completely true and everything they claimed continues to crumble.

Their goal at this point has to be to try to weaken him to the point that he is not re-elected, and good luck with that. I don't see anyone on the Dem side that share a stage with Donald Trump without be completely overmatched.

 

I agree with you regarding a "friendship" kind of thing. Never going to happen.

And unfortunately, the repercussions for taking such a direction will cripple the next Democrat who sits in the White House. Reap what you sow.

 

Yes. The things they have subjected us to, and their efforts to overturn a free and fair election will not be forgotten. If they could, they would silence us, steal our voice, our vote, confiscate our property and control the minute details of our lives. Christopher Steele and everyone associated with this should be evaluated by Grand Juries for felony conduct.

 

The left have gone on and on about Trump / Russia collusion yet seems the left are now Russian mobsters, attacking a presidential candidate, hell they will use any gov agency they can as weapons against any political enemy. I would not be surprised if they started poisoning their political enemies next. This is truly scary stuff and the most disturbing part is the law enforcement involvement and reading their voters comments. Truly disturbing.

 

Toe the line, or else. No way to deny that underlying demand by the left.

 

Steele... what a scam. I suppose we have a ton of DNC campaign contributors that are all now actively trying to get their money back....

 

Well, screw 'em. That kind of lawless domination of another is not allowed in our system. If we don't stand up for ourselves, why should anyone else stick their neck out for us?

 

Agreed.

I see the times we are going through as likely being similar to what was going on at the turn of the 20th century.

Imagine the collecting thinking that brought about Prohibition. That was a National referendum and decision. Considering how few everyday Americans supported it, it was passed anyway. Imagine the emotions that were present in those days, the finger pointing, the accusations.

Once again, a fervor of irrational beliefs is sweeping the Nation, with threats and accusations directed at anyone who stands in the way.

Remains to be seen where the wave crashes, but it will, and then it will return to the sea, having accomplished nothing.

 

Rinse and repeat despite facts in evidence. I realize its super easy to trumpettes to maintain the fantasy.