Christianity is a lie, since Adam wouldn't need/have a bellly button.

Why would I even give consideration to something moronic claim such as that when you also want to argue about whether or not Adam had a belly button? Get a life.

 

Why would I even give consideration to some moronic claim such as that when you also want to argue about whether or not Adam had a belly button? Get a life.

 

Yes it does, because it's one of the most disgusting books ever written (along with the Qur'an). You're learning a lot here, I'm glad. You're like I was years ago, but I am confident you're see the light soon:

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?

4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".

6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!

7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.

8 ) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)

9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

 

I just posted the 10 verses...you can apologize if you'd like. Now might be a good time to start leaving a belief system that APPROVES of RAPE, don't you think.

 

You have not PROVEN anything. You attest to something that is stated in the Bible.. yet you have not offered any tangible evidence that such events ever took place. So where is the PROOF of claim?

 

So what's the proper "interpretation" of Leviticus 18 and 20?:
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.[2](Leviticus 18:22 KJV)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.[3](Leviticus 20:13 KJV)

*I* say it's the most vile, repugnant thing I've ever read (to kill innocent people who may be in love), and this is no where to be found in a far superior belief system (modern Secular Humanism) but what do YOU say? (This should be good.)

 

Wow....Wow. Like, wow [FreedomSeeker sputters and gags even further....]. You defend the Bible yet you want *ME* to prove that stuff in the bible took place! Wow. Granted, I can't prove that, but WHY BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE IF YOU NEED THAT KIND OF PROOF!!?? Holy crap! Are you drunk? High?

 

Absolutely.... you want to use the Bible as though the Bible in your private interpretation is true and that those things happened, then since you accept those things as true, then you must prove that they are true. Else you have told a lie.

 

Don't be silly. I can't prove His existence anymore than you can't prove His non-existence. We have an abundance of evidences but of course it's still not good enough for our atheist friends.

What do you want? Do you want Him to come visit you one night, have some oreo cookies and hot milk, have Him tell you old biblical stories from the past, have Him perform some miracles for you, before He tucks you in safely to bed?...lol

Such arrogance to think out of the billions of people who ever lived on this earth He is going to come visit you so you would be finally convinced of His existence...lol

 

If *I* was god, and it kept one person from having to burn baby burn, then yes, I'd take time out of my busy schedule of giving babies AIDS and cancer and do what would of course convince someone that I existed and that this person should adopt Christianity. But I'm more moral than your women-hating, Jew-hating, gay-hating, Hindu-hating, Levite-hating (etc.) invisible friend ever will be.

I bet if YOU had god's ability that YOU would also....that's because you are more moral than your invisible friend. Believe in yourself and not the, to quote a great man "most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

 

The Bible CLAIMS they are true, so I'm going on the assumption that you aren't so stupid that you believe a book that, uh, you don't believe.

 

You're so emotional...calm down. You're an atheist remember? And so you don't believe in God and so why are you blaming Him for everything? In your mind He is not real....remember?

So now, who are you really blaming for all this mess?...it's evil sinful wicked people the blame should be on...well isn't it? It can be confusing at times to figure out some of you atheists because it seems you might actually believe in God but you hate Him and you blame Him for all the miseries here on earth.

So which is it?

 

This whole story was written by the Egyptian Prince Moshe (Moses in Greek) to explain where everyone came from.

It's as good as any other explanation.

If you believe in monkeys evolving into humans, then all you need to believe is that at some point God gave one of them a soul.

 

Secular humanists are just whiny little children.

 

Well, apparently I am smarter than you... because you play the old bait and switch routine in order to avoid meeting the necessity of proving that those things you mentioned from the Bible are true. Remember, whether I believe those things or not, is irrelevant... what is relevant is the fact that you have made a positive claim regarding those thing and that those things are true (actually happened in the course of history). Now prove those things.

 

One moment ... "... let us make men ... and god created the human being in his picture ... man and woman ... " ... hmhmhm ... nothing written there about dust - whatever ...

Pictures show Adam with a belly button. ... Aha ...

What has Eve to do with the constitution of your country?

You don't understand what this means, isn't it? Very short: Eve = Adam - same matter - same spirit.

Drawn with a belly button. ... Aha ...

The belly button studies in the bible are indeed not famous or not very well known.

Tell me something about your "reality-based overall belief system". What do you wear in your belly button? A diamond?

http://youtu.be/bNg-xClEnqM

 

No one can, so they are probably false, is part of my point.

 

LMFAO!

Oh my God...



Does Obama really have horns and a tail? I mean, this picture is so clear. Or, is Obama just a fairytale?

Can you explain this, please.

 

shouldn't the title be the artists of Adam and Eve were just making stuff up when putting pen to paper

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animals have souls, not as advanced as humans, but the life force is still there

 

That's better, yes.
OR, "we don't really know Jack about Adam and Eve because Jesus is too busy giving children AIDS in Africa to bother clearing this all up for us"

 

Yes, your are correct, a picture does not mean something's true. My point was that those who paint them with a belly button don't, like most religious people, THINK about their fairy tale....because if they did they would stop believing in it.

 

Nonsense.

There are people whose job is to study religion, they increase in faith by doing it. It's not my job, but I have studied lots about Islam, and have never believed in it more than I do today.

You cannot tell people what to think or how to think about something. Sorry, it just doesn't work like that.

I doubt the artists really cared about the bellybutton issue when painting it, considering they didn't see what either of them looked like.

The pictures are art, not Gospel. Remember that.

 

That's true.

 

So you're saying that the 50th time someone reads that Mohammad approved of raping of captives they are MORE religious than the very first time?

OJ, do you approve of rape of captives, or was Mohammad wrong?
Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24]
Abu Dawud 2:2150

More reading, to open your eyes: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam

What kind of person believes that someone who approves of rape of captives is the "best person of all time"? I'd really like to know.